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I'm also a huge fan of the R-S3, but this concern you guys seem to have about finding "talkative" tires is a bit hard for me to understand. Most race tires make no noise at all. The way you tell when a tire is developing a slip angle is by feel (it's pretty obvious). Tire noise varies greatly from one tire to another and is largely meaningless.
If you aren't able to feel when a tire is slipping, then that's a sign you're overdriving the car. Back off, smooth out your inputs, and pay attention to how the car feels as the suspension loads up in the corners. All the information is there!
Personally, I hate noisy/squealing tires. Very annoying!Last edited by Emre; 03-26-2011, 06:27 AM.
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Great series of photos and nice review on the RS3's! May just have to get those instead of the SSpecs :)
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I was there in a red E36 M3 that both Bishop and Cloudbase drove, and I'm the guy who rode with Ben and instantly preferred the RS3s. They really are talkative but not annoyingly so...my brand new Star Specs gripped, but it was always a guess how long before they'd break loose and slide. I'm nowhere near experienced enough to tell by feel rather than sound so having tires that didn't talk was actually disappointing. I got in a couple slides and minor two wheel off moments simply because the tires didn't say anything....until they lost all grip.
I'm buying a set of RS3s as soon as the SS wear out, that's for damn sure.
I had so much fun that day. Cannot wait to go out again.
pics of my car, courtesy of blefevre
Last edited by Bimmerman325i; 03-25-2011, 07:49 AM.
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Considering the tread wear rating and my driving... They're not that bad... I learned on the star specs that tread goes bye bye on the street quickly, so the hankooks were taken off quickly... I forgot I gave you a ride too lol, looks like I'm doing a decent job selling these tires haha
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Originally posted by Cloudbase View PostBrad the pic of Ben's car in the turn is freakin tits man. Great shot.
Also, it looks like the RS-3's took a beating. They might not last long, BUT I am still getting a set after that day :)
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Wow Bishop what a review lol. Now I definitely have to get them!! Got me excited when I have no money haha. But seriously, I will get them before the first event in June
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Thanks Alex, I texted you this morning (slept right through the phone ringing apparently) and then ran off to class.... PM'd you too... ;)
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Hey guys I've been working all day or I would have jumped in sooner.
Originally posted by KennyT View PostTerrible video. If I wanted music over engine noise I have my own play button.
I want to listen to the fucking beautiful M-Coupe.Originally posted by mech3ngn View Postcool vid but i want to here more engine noise too... i did check out your pictures tho, and your e30 build/restoration album is awesome!
Here's one with S54 growl:
Originally posted by leegf View Postthis. btw, is the video sped up?
Brad the pic of Ben's car in the turn is freakin tits man. Great shot.
I'll get a longer clip of Ben's lines up soon.
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Originally posted by leegf View Postthis. btw, is the video sped up?
Originally posted by gverelli View Post@Bishop, How did the RS-3's feel?????
I love the Hankook RS-3's.
I love the Hankook RS-3's.
I love the Hankook RS-3's.
Now, I went from 17x8 wheels, 235/40-17 star specs, to 15x8, 225/45-15 RS-3's... With the larger star specs I felt they really strained the car and I never really drove all that confidently. Also, it was very notable that the star specs don't talk to you... at all... They're quiet.... quiet.... quiet... scream and then let go... I hated this feeling.... The RS-3s made plenty of noise and were a BLAST to drive on! Instilled so much more confidence than the star specs ever did, felt like there was less strain on the car, and they talked, and talked, and talked, and then RIGHT as they let go (understeer) they got much louder, but were VERY easy to get back under control. I absolutely loved how my car changed... and yes, your mileage may vary, I don't care, between the two setups I've tested, I'd prefer the 15s w/ RS-3s over and over again. I just feel they were better and more fun... GAWD were they fucking fun... For those who wanna defend the star specs, go for it, that's your gig. I got to drive that M-coupe w/ star specs, as well as bimmerman's semi-prepped e36 m3, also on star specs, and pushing those cars I felt the same thing.... More power, still no noise... It wasn't confidence inspiring.. Now, I can't speak on Alex's behalf (cloudbase) but I can speak on David's since i don't think he chimed in, but he rode in my car and instantly said he preferred the RS-3s simply because of how talkative they were... It's nice being able to hear what the car's doing and he said he'd be buying a set of Hankooks when his 2 sets of start specs are dead.
Now, bitch if you want about my review, defend the star specs, etc. etc. etc.... This was my feeling, and I had a set of star specs on my STi as well was the e30 before switching to the RS-3.... Love me some Hankook.
/mini-rant
Again! Really interested in hearing feedback from seasoned track junkies! Always wanting to improve on my driving, braking, etc. etc. etc.
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Originally posted by KennyT View PostTerrible video. If I wanted music over engine noise I have my own play button.
I want to listen to the fucking beautiful M-Coupe.Originally posted by iamcreepingdeath View PostIm pretty sure if you listened to the audio from the camera you would just get wind noise.
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Brad, can I get the hi-res of that last turning shot so I can get a new sig made?
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