BRZ vs E30

[Xat1cZ]

There's only one way to settle this,

[defaultName]

Great video! Looks like you were having a blast!

[Wh33lhop]

I've seen a couple cars roll on cyclone while I was doing skidpad events - pretty scary. I've ran thill once on the bypass configuration, and would like to see if I can improve my laptimes. After only one trackday, it's my new favorite track because its smooth and high speed! Still waiting to try Laguna and Chuckwalla though

What group are you guys running in? Point by and solo are almost full

A COUPLE cars? Jesus. I was looking forward to 5, maybe I should take it easy.

We were shooting for point-by; I mailed a check. Hopefully it arrives in time.

Anyway, gotta get up early tomorrow: laguna seca time! :)

[robgoesvroom]

What's wrong with cyclone? Don't wanna trail brake? ;) it evens the playing field out for cars with less power, should be in your favor.

None of us are running E30s actually, I am running my e46 330i and we will have some M3s. Also kronus will hopefully be running his e30. So... One of us will be running E30s.

I've seen a couple cars roll on cyclone while I was doing skidpad events - pretty scary. I've ran thill once on the bypass configuration, and would like to see if I can improve my laptimes. After only one trackday, it's my new favorite track because its smooth and high speed! Still waiting to try Laguna and Chuckwalla though

What group are you guys running in? Point by and solo are almost full

[R3Z3N]

Robbin nice! I look forward to running with you again and you proving that power isn't everything, but driver mostly is ;-)

[humzak77]

Thanks! I love it

[IRON-E]

Question for all you track guys from California (bay area/socal) - would a 4.10 LSD be better suited to thill and buttonwillow for a stock M20? I'm running a 3.73 LSD now and only stay in 3rd/4th gear, 2nd for turn 11. Might be going to thill on April 28 with NCRC to battle it out with my BRZ buddy again yeeeee =]

Rob, talk to Kevin at JMP, he has ran buttonwillow with his 4.10 LSD/stock m20 and did pretty good times iirc.

[Wh33lhop]

this may be true.

in any case, hitting the top of 5th in a car loosely held together by zip ties and good intentions is quite a bit of fun.

And hitting the top of 5th in an M20 is impossible :p

[kronus]

this may be true.

in any case, hitting the top of 5th in a car loosely held together by zip ties and good intentions is quite a bit of fun.

[Wh33lhop]

Point being, you can't compare a race built E30 with a stock one. Cheesy is likely up 50whp and down 400lbs from this car... you will have much higher straightaway speeds. You may forget, sir, how anemic an M20 really is. ;)

[kronus]

You are not running a stock m20 nor are you running stockish weight, nor the same rev limit...

the rev limit is the same, the m30 260 has the same gear ratios as the m20 one. Also, our sister team runs an M20 with a 4.10, and they're pretty even with us in everything but acceleration ;)

[Wh33lhop]

I would not run anything shorter than a 3.73 on BW because of riverside and the dragstrip (we top out 5th 2/3rds through dragstrip with a 3.73, it would be shameful with a 4.10), but t-hill is doable with a 4.10.

With a 3.73 at TH I dip into 2nd in 5, 11 and 14 if I'm going hard. At BW, 2/3, 4/5 and 19 are 2nd in the same situation. Since we do endurance racing, most of the time I hang back a bit and save gas/engine/clutch/transmission/diff/tires by not dropping into 2nd.

You are not running a stock m20 nor are you running stockish weight, nor the same rev limit...

[kronus]

Also kronus will hopefully be running his e30. So... One of us will be running E30s.

let's bloody hope

[kronus]

Question for all you track guys from California (bay area/socal) - would a 4.10 LSD be better suited to thill and buttonwillow for a stock M20? I'm running a 3.73 LSD now and only stay in 3rd/4th gear, 2nd for turn 11. Might be going to thill on April 28 with NCRC to battle it out with my BRZ buddy again yeeeee =]

I would not run anything shorter than a 3.73 on BW because of riverside and the dragstrip (we top out 5th 2/3rds through dragstrip with a 3.73, it would be shameful with a 4.10), but t-hill is doable with a 4.10.

With a 3.73 at TH I dip into 2nd in 5, 11 and 14 if I'm going hard. At BW, 2/3, 4/5 and 19 are 2nd in the same situation. Since we do endurance racing, most of the time I hang back a bit and save gas/engine/clutch/transmission/diff/tires by not dropping into 2nd.

[Wh33lhop]

I'm assuming you're running with NCRC, too bad it's cyclone config. I'd love to get on track with more E30s!

What's wrong with cyclone? Don't wanna trail brake? ;) it evens the playing field out for cars with less power, should be in your favor.

None of us are running E30s actually, I am running my e46 330i and we will have some M3s. Also kronus will hopefully be running his e30. So... One of us will be running E30s.