E30 vs E46

[JRKOUPE]

....this thread was worse than paint drying...................

[magoo_lc1]

Don't underestimate Acura, they might be FWD, but believe me, they take handling and performance seriously.

I know this comment will get laughed at by ignorant people, but take an Acura for a spirited drive, namely a performance oriented one like a Type-S or Type-R/GS-R, but even the '90 Integra RS i drove handled very, very well and wasn't completely gutless.

I was referring to p2 and 3 and was just expanding on this comment

Good idea about posting up pics of the car I all ready see what the comments would be like.

[german g]

typical answer..Im 36 and far from a ricer. You wont see an alteeza light or body kit around my car....thanks

good for you...
what did your civic have to do with this thread???

[Eliminator]

It's been over a month, which car did you take ? :)

We ended up not going. Dad had to bump his vacation schedule a week so we missed out on the track day. The good thing is that I got to drive the Acura (CL type-S) up highway 1 (from San Luis Obispo to Lime Kiln). I was not impressed. The suspension tuning and steering response was not as good as the E30, and much worse than the E46. The brakes were also horrible; we experienced significant fade ON THE STREET. Plus, the (260hp) Acura was a dog. I swear it felt slower than either the 168hp E30 or 192hp E46. Either BMW would have smoked the Acura on the track, no question, even on a fast track like willow. Also, there were some minor annoyances like the climate control that didn't work very well.

On another day, Dad drove my E46 to Santa Barbara. He commented several times that it drove really "different". He said it had better "feel", better steering, better cornering, and was quieter on the highway than the Acura. He kept catching himself going 80-90 without realizing it. It was painful for him to admit that the Acura wasn't as good.

On yet another day, we dropped by our local BMW dealer in SLO. They had two M6's (a coupe and convert) and an M5 in the showroom. Plus a couple of E92 coupes. You should have seen it, he was like a little kid. My Mom and I couldn't get him out of there. After driving my car, and sitting in some new bimmers, he's seriously considering trading the Acura for an E92 coupe.

BMW vs Acura? BMW is the hands down winner in any category.

[2002maniac]

typical answer..Im 36 and far from a ricer. You wont see an alteeza light or body kit around my car....thanks

Start your own thread and post pics. sounds neat.

[magoo_lc1]

typical answer..Im 36 and far from a ricer. You wont see an alteeza light or body kit around my car....thanks

[german g]

Oh, what does this have to do with the thread?

Nothing at all......Sound like ricer talk to me

[Jean]

It's been over a month, which car did you take ? :)

[2002maniac]

Im dropping a gs-r motor in my 1700lb ef hatch. With 180hp moving that weight with 24 way adjustable coilovers and everything will be corner weighted i think i would hold my own quite well with most e30 fwd or not.

Still too heavy. Put it on a kart frame and I'll be impressed.

Oh, what does this have to do with the thread?

[magoo_lc1]

Im dropping a gs-r motor in my 1700lb ef hatch. With 180hp moving that weight with 24 way adjustable coilovers and everything will be corner weighted i think i would hold my own quite well with most e30 fwd or not.

[blueapplesoda]

i shifted my auto tranny at buttonwillow all day long last year like it was some sort of steptronicthinger from 1989. the next day, i could only drive in reverse, so i just gave myself an excuse to do the tranny swap with my crashed 87. Not the best way to dispose of a slushbox, but abusing the life out of it was fun. 5spd + 4.10lsd = ftw, until [I] turbo.

[skota]

I'd drive the e46, the automatic would drive me nuts. But I'm is a slightly simular sutuation. I'm going to be building my 87 325i as a good street car and one I can drive on track days without all the uncomforts of a dedicated track car. I'd like to make it faster than my other car on track but it's going to take a bit of time and alot of money. Either way they'll both be fun. Here's a picture of my rabbit, it's incrediable how fast FWD can be.

[Axxe]

All Civics after 1988 are double wishbone.

Wrong. 2001 + is mac strut up front.

[soul]

whats the point of a track day? to have fun! my vote is for the e46 for the sheer fact that it's a manual.

[Eliminator]

lol cus everyone is slow for a while dave. No matter what they drive.

Will

I've done a number of track events, just not in a BMW. Previously I used a 1972 AMC Hornet with 360 and 5-speed conversion. Stock suspension was pretty good, stock brakes were not. One good brake application (like turn one at Willow) would boil the fluid, so it was neccesary to do a LOT of coasting. Also, the engine was extremely prone to oil starvation which meant keeping it under about 4500, and lugging it in high gear in the corners. Still managed 1:45's.

And your dad has more experiance than you at the track right??

He has more experience in general, but we've been to Willow Springs the same number of times.