Need help picking out 6 pt harness

[ddavidv]

Not a very good photo, but I had a similar issue when mounting the bar in my Audi Coupe (rear seat fit).

http://www.mongrelmotorsports.homestead.com/files/rollbar.JPG

What I ended up doing was peeling back the upholstery from the sides and cutting a couple inches out of the metal frame to allow the bars to fit. Trimmed a little foam, then reattached the leather and smooshed it into place. It wouldn't wrinkle around the bars with the metal frame in there. Crinkles up the upholstery a little, but works.

[JRKOUPE]

Has anyone retained the interior panels, seat belts, and carpet while installing a roll bar and harnesses? My AutoPower roll bar sits right where factory seat belts mount, so I had to remove them. The rear seat will probably fit , but it looks like I have to smash it into place. And I don't see the rear door panels going back in. This bumps me out of DSP for Solo, which kinda sucks.

I'm considering just stripping the rest of the interior as this is only a track/autox car. I'll just get my ass handed to me in CP or DP when I autox. I'll have more fun at HPDE's with a gutted car though, haha.

I have it all except my oe belts in frt........altho my rear quarter(door) panel interior bits are a bit askew.

[JGood]

Has anyone retained the interior panels, seat belts, and carpet while installing a roll bar and harnesses? My AutoPower roll bar sits right where factory seat belts mount, so I had to remove them. The rear seat will probably fit , but it looks like I have to smash it into place. And I don't see the rear door panels going back in. This bumps me out of DSP for Solo, which kinda sucks.

I'm considering just stripping the rest of the interior as this is only a track/autox car. I'll just get my ass handed to me in CP or DP when I autox. I'll have more fun at HPDE's with a gutted car though, haha.

[JRKOUPE]

I went thru all this same worrying and commisurating w/ my belt decisions. It will all be clear when you start ordering...........racer wholesale, discovery parts, HMS etc can all set u up.............ask more ? if u need.........youll love it when done properly.

[JGood]

Alright, will do.


Thanks for all the help everyone.

[Dave]

Call and ask if they come with the snap hooks - but I think they come with the flat bolt in ends.

Snap hooks are easier to install. While you'll still be drilling the same number of holes and installing the same number of plates, the advantage is that you can install your seat and then feed the lower ends of the harnesses through the holes and just clip them in. With the bolt ins, it can be more problematic, esp. with the lap belts, as the buckles, etc do not always fit or fit well through the belt holes in your seats. You are then left to try and feed thebelts through the seat and then bolt them in - and depending on where you bolt the belts down, you can run into tight clearances and it is just more of a PITA to install.

[JGood]

The snap hooks http://www.racerwholesale.com/produc...roducts_id=183 can be put on the belts in place of the bolt in ends. Just make sure you order the correct size.

Yeah, I just needed to know if the belts came with those snap hooks or the plates with a hole drilled in them. I don't want to order them if the belts come with them. And if it's just as easy to mount them with the hardware they come with, I will do that, I just need to know how.

[Dave]

The snap hooks http://www.racerwholesale.com/produc...roducts_id=183 can be put on the belts in place of the bolt in ends. Just make sure you order the correct size.

[JGood]

OK Great. So the last thing then, is should I be ordering those snap hooks too? How would I install the harnesses with the plates that just have a hole in them (the ones in the pictures)?

[Dave]

Ideal way to do it is with eye hooks bolted through the chassis with reinforcement plates. You can get the hooks and plates from Summit Racing, they are G-Force brand - I got them when I got my five points.

I am getting the 6 points now and will be doing the clip in hooks.

As far as location, look at the G-Force installation manual. If you cant find that, I know HMS has the Schroth one on their website and it should be about the same.

[JGood]

OK, so where exactly are the ideal attachment points for both driver and passenger sides, for the lap and sub belts? I am ordering the G-Force 6 point cam lock pull down harnesses. Do I need to order additional hardware for installation if I'm going to mount it to the chassis?

Looking closer at the harness, it looks like it comes with end plates that have a hole drilled in them. All installations I've seen have those snap hooks that you can attach to an eye bolt, which you can bolt into the chassis at a reinforced spot. What is the proper way to mount the G-Force harness, with those bolt ends? Or would it be better to just buy a bunch of those snap hooks and use those?

[mode]

you want to have the belts secured to the chassis, not the seat. Therefore the seat wont take the stresses in a wreck.

[JGood]

The rear seat attach points are reinforced and suitable locations for mounting the lap belt. I don't know know what you'd have to do for that when using a stock seat. The usual method when using a race shell is to replace the bolts with eye-bolts or add mounting points to the rear of the seat adapter.

Not sure what you mean by the rear seat mount points. Can't I just bolt the lap/sub belts to the old seat belt receptacle bolt, and the identical bolt on the other side of the seat?

[jlevie]

With most any harness set there will be enough length to the shoulder straps to allow them the be wraped around the harness bar and secured with the adjuster buckle. Alternative mounts for those are to have tabs welded to the harness bar to accept bolts, or to route the straps over the bar and down to reinforced tabs on the floor.

The rear seat attach points are reinforced and suitable locations for mounting the lap belt. I don't know know what you'd have to do for that when using a stock seat. The usual method when using a race shell is to replace the bolts with eye-bolts or add mounting points to the rear of the seat adapter.

[JGood]

http://www.racerwholesale.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_70&products_id=333

What about that? How will that install?