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    any time attack e30's out there ?

    has anyone competed in a time attack event with there e30 ?

    i am thinking of building my new e30 for time attack next year. i will compete in the street class if i do.
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    Just curious: what do you think is special about a "Time Attack" E30 that's any different from any other E30 built for track use?
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      #3
      NASA has "Time Trials" that's like "Time Attack" but with less ridiculous wings and neon paint. There are a couple of E30s that compete in it here in Norcal, so I'd assume it's roughly the same across the nation.

      It's generally for drivers who aren't into real racing (i.e. wheel to wheel).
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        #4
        Originally posted by Emre View Post
        Just curious: what do you think is special about a "Time Attack" E30 that's any different from any other E30 built for track use?

        i was kinda hopeing that someone hear competed in a street class so that i could ask questions about there set up. wouldent a time attack car set up a little different then say a spec e30? i would really like the freedom of being abel to change out suspension/brakes/tires to see what works best for me. i am trying to build a street legal track car this is why i am going with time attack as they have a street class.
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          #5
          Originally posted by laz View Post
          NASA has "Time Trials" that's like "Time Attack" but with less ridiculous wings and neon paint. There are a couple of E30s that compete in it here in Norcal, so I'd assume it's roughly the same across the nation.

          It's generally for drivers who aren't into real racing (i.e. wheel to wheel).

          i plan on competting in the Redline Time Attack Event as i live withen a few miles from one of the tracks they use so if shit hits the fan i am not to far from home

          i wish i could get into wheel to wheel racing. thers just no way i could afford it
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            #6
            Have you done any HPDE's yet? If not, instructed driving should be much higher on your priority list then competition...
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              #7
              Originally posted by JGood View Post
              Have you done any HPDE's yet? If not, instructed driving should be much higher on your priority list then competition...
              yes i have
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                #8
                Originally posted by !kid View Post
                i was kinda hopeing that someone hear competed in a street class so that i could ask questions about there set up.
                If you look at the rule book for BMW CCA Club Racing or NASA, you will find that in most classes it's possible to build a competitive car that is still street legal. Basically, any car built to "Stock" or "Prepared" class rules in BMW CCA Club Racing can be street legal...it's only when you get up into the "Modified" classes that you start to run into trouble.

                If you want to compete in "time attacks," just look at what the fast guys are doing in NASA Time Trials. You can download a rulebook from the NASA website. I'm not very familiar with time trials, so I don't know what class the E30 would be competitive in. But it wouldn't be too tough to find out. Just poke around the NASA forums, examine the rule book, and it should be easy to figure out.

                Originally posted by !kid View Post
                wouldent a time attack car set up a little different then say a spec e30? i would really like the freedom of being abel to change out suspension/brakes/tires to see what works best for me.
                Different than a SpecE30? Sure. Those are hardly the fastest E30s around. The question is, would a "time attack" car be different than any other E30 optimized for track use? The answer to that is no. There's nothing magic about time trials that makes those cars faster than a well-prepared club racer.

                Here's a typical "K-Stock" E30 325is setup: TMS J-Stock springs and custom-valved Bilsteins (or Ground Control coilovers); Ireland Engineering F&R swaybar set; urethane engine/tranny/diff/subframe/shock mounts; 15x7" TDR or Kosei wheels running 225/45-R15 rubber.

                Here's a typical "K-Prepared" setup: same as above, but with camber plates, Massive big-brake kit, Schrick cams, headers, and open exhaust. Obviously, the cage is a bit different and the interior is more thoroughly stripped. There are some other details, but those are the basics.

                Either of these will be far quicker around a track than a SpecE30. You can take the E30 as far as your budget and talent allows. Ron Checca is able to win races in the highly competitive "C-Modified" class in his E30 M3 with 2.5L S14 engine. The sky's the limit.

                Originally posted by !kid View Post
                i am trying to build a street legal track car this is why i am going with time attack as they have a street class.
                Pretty much all sanctioning bodies have genuine street classes these days.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by emre View Post
                  just curious: What do you think is special about a "time attack" e30 that's any different from any other e30 built for track use?
                  lol:d

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                    #10
                    thanks Emre ill be sure to check out NASA web page
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                      #11
                      how many hpde's have you done and what group do you run in? you need to be in hpde3 and signed off for TT in most nasa regions. as for stock class w2w racing, it's kind of a dying breed. i hardly see JS or KS cars in BMW Club racing anymore.
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                        #12
                        I'm working on an E30 for Nasa TT.

                        It's a white 325is that I put together for a friend for a track toy, now the goal is to actually get it out in the midwest for NASA TT events either next year, or sort things next year for the year following.

                        I'm extra excited as I'll be one of the drivers too!

                        So I will be saying a farewell of sorts to autox for '10 as I will focus more on lapping/track-time.

                        Should be fun. We've got great support, a good sponsor, and by next spring a strong M20 :)
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                          #13
                          Wow, I totally expected to see this thread turn into the typical R3V flame fest...good job, !kid, in not letting r3V get under your skin with the tiny little jabs.

                          R3V for once responded to what seemed to be racer-boi wanna be questions with decent answers (prickly attitude included, of course) and paid attention when it was obvious that the OP was not a snotty nosed douche.

                          I do have a question: WTF is "time attack" and why the red stripes?

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                            #14
                            I've got an e30 built for NASA TT, currently running TTE and just sneaking in due to tiny-ass 205 rubber.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by StereoInstaller1 View Post
                              Wow, I totally expected to see this thread turn into the typical R3V flame fest...good job, !kid, in not letting r3V get under your skin with the tiny little jabs.

                              R3V for once responded to what seemed to be racer-boi wanna be questions with decent answers (prickly attitude included, of course) and paid attention when it was obvious that the OP was not a snotty nosed douche.

                              I do have a question: WTF is "time attack" and why the red stripes?
                              i have been on a few other car forums though the years you get used to all the neg people out there

                              A time attack is another term for time trial.


                              this is the organization i would like to compete in





                              well the plan will be to get the car built, then do as many auto x and HPDE days to try and get as much seat time as i can. find a good set up for my suspension and then compete some time next year in a local time trial event/ "time attack"
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