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    #31
    fun thread!
    Nice job bringing her back to life
    Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

    1989 BMW 325i SOLD
    1998 BMW Estoril Blue e36 M3/4/5 SOLD
    1987 BMW 325 (The Piece) SOLD
    1991 BMW 318is S52 swap (The Beast) Now Driving Project Thread: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=234207

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      #32
      This thread will breath until BMW NA comes out with a free maintenance plan for e30s.

      Ok so here's a little something...Kingston are you paying attention ? I dont believe I have ever read about anyone doing this...bits and pieces here and there but this should be the first comprehensive, illustrated & detailed description..of a cowl refresh !!

      Go get popcorn.

      Here is what your typical cowl looks like. Faded grills is what everyone sees.



      yet lurking beneath this esthetic nightmare is something much worse. Im talking about rotten damper rings


      This seemingly harmless condition actually can lead to the early failure of your wiper motor. The ring keeps the wiper spindle on axis and as it begins to wobble that movement is transferred to the ball joint on the bottom of the spindle which by virtue of the levers and fulcrums in your wiper linkage actually passes this extra effort back to your motor in the form of a hernia.

      To address this blight on our cowls here is your kit


      The first step in this process is to put tape on the windshield. I prefer blue cause it goes with my eyes and if you have to ask me why the tape then turn in your e30 keys and go borrow your sister's Kia. You are an embarrassment to us all


      Hopefully you can remove the wiper and nut without help to get here. Note the circlip on the spindle as we will come back to it


      The difference between the new and old grills speaks for itself. I know you can paint them, but....they are $13-5@ brand new so why would you bother. Note the position of the blue tool. It is right at the filler in the vent. There are 3 such fillers and under each one is a spring clip. The windshield side of the grill has tabs so it will lift out when you release the 3 spring clips.


      The problem here is that these clips are rather stiff and they lock in too the brittle plastic of the grill. If you break that plastic the grills wont be happy so push in with the blue tool just far enough to be able to pry up so the clip clears the metal of the cowl but not so far that you will break the other 2
      clips. Behold the spring clip.


      Which leaves us here


      First the nut comes off then you lift the washer


      With the washer and nut off you are now starting at....<drumroll>...the damper ring. Note the silver collar inside the damper ring as this is what causes most people problems.


      You must remove the collar before you attempt to do anything with the ring. It a bit snug but it actually pries out quite easily with a small screwdriver. Here it is part way out. Note the crumbling damper ring that the life of your wipers depends upon.


      Here we are completely torn down


      This is a housekeeping opportunity to clean where..the sun dont shine..and to do a minor service on your wipers since its probably the only time you will ever do this until they break.

      The is a circlip, washer, wave washer and rubber seal. The rubber seal is extremely delicate and does not appear to be available by itself, so DNFIU !! I used the tip of a razer knife to gently pry it up and I did not remove anything beyond what you see here


      I then dipped by small screwdriver in some clean engine oil and fed a couple of small drops down the spindle, running the wipers for a few seconds to distribute the oil. After that I cleaned the cowl and gave it a good wax


      Now comes the fun part. The damper ring has a bit of a mind of its own and of course you do not want to damage the paint. I used a bit of my favorite rubber lube which is cable pulling lube as its water based and rather effective (I use this for CAB in stalls as well). You really do need to shove this baby in and I again use my small screwdriver with extreme care to help the lower lip of the ring get under the cowl.


      NOW you can put the collar back. At this point its fairly obvious why you do not want to remove or replace the damper ring with the collar in place. There just isnt enough room. When you put the big retaining nut back on keep in mind that it is compressing the damper ring beneath the washer. This will help seal the outer lip against the cowl while the inner bore compresses against the collar. You do not want to crush its guts so be reasonable. Its thin rubber and the flat washer can score your paint.


      Then put the new grill back. Remember to insert the windshield side tabs first then press down on the engine side. I found that the springs clips actually wanted helpso I used the blue tool again to compress them just enough to lock in to place.


      Replace the wiper


      and the drivers side is done


      The passenger side is essentially the same except without the grill (its to the left..tilt your head to see it)



      Lastly, you want to give your hood seal a drink of Gummi Pflege. It will love you for this.


      Intermission. Go pee.
      Last edited by jeffnhiscars; 12-01-2012, 06:09 PM.
      Seat Shocks....I have passed the baton to John Christy from Ninestitch. Email John or Garrett at ninestitch1@gmail.com

      https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...86#post4944786
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      http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=360504
      87 Zinno Cabrio barn find 98k and still smells like a barn. Build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...20#post3455220

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        #33
        Great work on the restoration.

        So what does the Gummi product do? Keep the rubber soft and prevents oxidation?


        My 1989 e30 s52 Touring... this is Betty

        My 1989 325i vert (sold)...this is Nina

        My 1991 M5 (sold)... this is Veronica

        Photo comparison: OEM vs aftermarket windscreen for a convertible

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          #34
          Originally posted by MC Hammered View Post
          Great work on the restoration.

          So what does the Gummi product do? Keep the rubber soft and prevents oxidation?
          Thanks.

          Its made by Einszett in Germany and can be bought from the dealer or for that matter Amazon. Has a nice citrus smell and built in applicator foam

          Gummi Pflege Stick

          Conditions rubber weather stripping on car doors, windows and trunk lids reducing squeaks, rattles, wind noise and water leaks. Protects and keeps the rubber elastic. Restores color to dried out rubber. Protects against extreme temperature and UV rays. Solvent-free, water-based formula. Easy-to-use shoe polish type applicator makes application simple without the mess.

          Conditions all weather stripping around doors, hood and trunk
          Temperature resistant for long-lasting protection
          Prevents rubber from drying and cracking
          With built-in foam applicator for easy application
          Water-based, doesn't contain petroleum solvents that can dry rubber


          Here is there NA website. Worth a look
          nextzett Car Detailing Products for the enthusiast and professional. We make professional quality car cleaning products that perfect and protect.
          Last edited by jeffnhiscars; 12-01-2012, 06:51 PM.
          Seat Shocks....I have passed the baton to John Christy from Ninestitch. Email John or Garrett at ninestitch1@gmail.com

          https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...86#post4944786
          Alice the Time Capsule
          http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=360504
          87 Zinno Cabrio barn find 98k and still smells like a barn. Build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...20#post3455220

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            #35
            this thread's a blast. sub'd!
            I BUY/SELL REFURBISHED CM5907s & CM5908s

            HOWTOs:
            DB vert plastic bumpers
            OEM Keys
            MTech1 docs

            88 ix Lach/Card
            91 ic Calypso 3.1
            86 Cosmo 2.7

            OEM+ or bust!


            reelizmpro: I will always be an e30 guy.. I still do all of my own labor
            TrentW: There's just something so right about a well-built M20 in an E30
            e30m3s54turbo: I save my money for tuner parts.

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              #36
              I'm only guessing but I suspect some of you would like to know how the engine turned out.

              Here we are with the head bolted down. You can see I spent a fair amount of time cleaning things up. The head got all new studs, copper manifold nuts & stainless acorns which I got at HD for $.58@. The acorns were a bit shallopw so I used the copper washers to raise them and to add that old marine engine touch.


              This is typical "head off" spagetti


              and of course the infamous bitch tube. I tried putting the zip ties completely around the spring but found that that made getting it over the tube a bit tight so I ran the zip ties only around the top and bottom coils. Make sure you keep them 180 degrees apart of the spring will gimp on you. Just hold it steady, snip the zips and guide the upper end in to the intake manifold.


              This is what the drivers side looked like at this stage


              It sounds quite straight forward and so far it really was...until this. The VR downpipe gaskets would absolutely not slide over the studs on the manifold. Being a layered metal gasket they have no give and simply put, they are cut wrong. I tried to drill the holes a bit larger and shredded one. I tested the manifold to conform that the studs slid in to the flange. They did.

              Bottom line is that the holes are cut to match the body of the studs but not the threads. They are garbage. Fortunately, I am 5 minutes from Viking Imports, my local foreign parts supplier, and Richard there got me a pair of Elrings in short order. They are a much better made product (I used thier head gasket) and they worked like a charm.

              This is the Elring. There kmjay be better ways to install the exhaust manifolds, but since the 2 flanges are married I found it easier to mount both manifolds to the downpipe then work the whole mess in to place. Not too much cussing to attract the cops.


              Finally its all buttoned up


              and this


              and this


              Can you taste it ?


              Where are my keys ?
              Seat Shocks....I have passed the baton to John Christy from Ninestitch. Email John or Garrett at ninestitch1@gmail.com

              https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...86#post4944786
              Alice the Time Capsule
              http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=360504
              87 Zinno Cabrio barn find 98k and still smells like a barn. Build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...20#post3455220

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                #37
                Originally posted by jeffnhiscars View Post
                It sounds quite straight forward and so far it really was...until this. The VR downpipe gaskets would absolutely not slide over the studs on the manifold. Being a layered metal gasket they have no give and simply put, they are cut wrong. I tried to drill the holes a bit larger and shredded one. I tested the manifold to conform that the studs slid in to the flange. They did.
                Looking good man!
                Yeah, I remember the VR exhaust mani gaskets being lame! When I did my headgasket and my buddy's we put the intake manifold and exhaust manifolds on before we install the head, this seems a lot easier. Just remember to do the bitch tube (ask me how I know haha).

                Anyways My point being when the head was out of the car and I installed the exhaust manifolds I was able to use a flathead and hammer to slowly keep tapping the VR gasket over each stud. It eventually would free up and fit fine.

                Glad to see elring's worked much better.
                Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

                1989 BMW 325i SOLD
                1998 BMW Estoril Blue e36 M3/4/5 SOLD
                1987 BMW 325 (The Piece) SOLD
                1991 BMW 318is S52 swap (The Beast) Now Driving Project Thread: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=234207

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by cjdontthink View Post
                  Looking good man!
                  Yeah, I remember the VR exhaust mani gaskets being lame! When I did my headgasket and my buddy's we put the intake manifold and exhaust manifolds on before we install the head, this seems a lot easier. Just remember to do the bitch tube (ask me how I know haha).

                  Anyways My point being when the head was out of the car and I installed the exhaust manifolds I was able to use a flathead and hammer to slowly keep tapping the VR gasket over each stud. It eventually would free up and fit fine.

                  Glad to see elring's worked much better.
                  I'm becoming a fan of Elring. IMO there is no excuse for something as simple as a $5 flange gasket to need a workaround.

                  As for pre assembly of the head, its an option for sure but I chose not to wrestle with the extra weight when there was no particular gain involved... like if you bench press 250 and haven't been to the gym in a few days :-)

                  I had an extra pair of hands to put the head alone on just to be safe. The rest I did solo in my own sweet time.
                  Seat Shocks....I have passed the baton to John Christy from Ninestitch. Email John or Garrett at ninestitch1@gmail.com

                  https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...86#post4944786
                  Alice the Time Capsule
                  http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=360504
                  87 Zinno Cabrio barn find 98k and still smells like a barn. Build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...20#post3455220

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by jeffnhiscars View Post
                    I'm becoming a fan of Elring. IMO there is no excuse for something as simple as a $5 flange gasket to need a workaround.

                    As for pre assembly of the head, its an option for sure but I chose not to wrestle with the extra weight when there was no particular gain involved... like if you bench press 250 and haven't been to the gym in a few days :-)

                    I had an extra pair of hands to put the head alone on just to be safe. The rest I did solo in my own sweet time.
                    That's where the engine hoist comes in handy :)
                    Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

                    1989 BMW 325i SOLD
                    1998 BMW Estoril Blue e36 M3/4/5 SOLD
                    1987 BMW 325 (The Piece) SOLD
                    1991 BMW 318is S52 swap (The Beast) Now Driving Project Thread: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=234207

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                      #40
                      God damn... awesome stuff so far! The machine shop story is sweet, wish I could find a shop like that around here.

                      Post that wiper writeup in the faq & diy section!

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                        #41
                        good stuff in here

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by cjdontthink View Post
                          That's where the engine hoist comes in handy :)
                          A hoist to lift a head...and I thought I was a lightweight...lol.

                          If its not off a D8 I'm good.

                          Originally posted by 5Toes View Post
                          God damn... awesome stuff so far! The machine shop story is sweet, wish I could find a shop like that around here.

                          Post that wiper writeup in the faq & diy section!
                          Good suggestion. May do that.

                          Thanks everyone for the encouragement.
                          Seat Shocks....I have passed the baton to John Christy from Ninestitch. Email John or Garrett at ninestitch1@gmail.com

                          https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...86#post4944786
                          Alice the Time Capsule
                          http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=360504
                          87 Zinno Cabrio barn find 98k and still smells like a barn. Build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...20#post3455220

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by bradnic View Post
                            this thread's a blast. sub'd!
                            I posted in your thread today. We are on the same page here so if I can be of any help....
                            Seat Shocks....I have passed the baton to John Christy from Ninestitch. Email John or Garrett at ninestitch1@gmail.com

                            https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...86#post4944786
                            Alice the Time Capsule
                            http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=360504
                            87 Zinno Cabrio barn find 98k and still smells like a barn. Build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...20#post3455220

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by jeffnhiscars View Post
                              A hoist to lift a head...and I thought I was a lightweight...lol.

                              If its not off a D8 I'm good.



                              Good suggestion. May do that.

                              Thanks everyone for the encouragement.
                              It's not about not being able to lift it, it just makes everything easier. Lining it up and all that. Like I said I had the exhaust manis and intake mani installed. Yeah, I was able to lift it up, but it would sure be tough to try to line it up leaning over the fenders!
                              Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

                              1989 BMW 325i SOLD
                              1998 BMW Estoril Blue e36 M3/4/5 SOLD
                              1987 BMW 325 (The Piece) SOLD
                              1991 BMW 318is S52 swap (The Beast) Now Driving Project Thread: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=234207

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by cjdontthink View Post
                                It's not about not being able to lift it, it just makes everything easier. Lining it up and all that. Like I said I had the exhaust manis and intake mani installed. Yeah, I was able to lift it up, but it would sure be tough to try to line it up leaning over the fenders!
                                agreed. exactly how I did it. bolted intake and exhaust manis to the head and took my time aligning everything. did it all solo.
                                I BUY/SELL REFURBISHED CM5907s & CM5908s

                                HOWTOs:
                                DB vert plastic bumpers
                                OEM Keys
                                MTech1 docs

                                88 ix Lach/Card
                                91 ic Calypso 3.1
                                86 Cosmo 2.7

                                OEM+ or bust!


                                reelizmpro: I will always be an e30 guy.. I still do all of my own labor
                                TrentW: There's just something so right about a well-built M20 in an E30
                                e30m3s54turbo: I save my money for tuner parts.

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