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Old 06-24-2010, 01:52 PM   #16
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I'm surprised it has not come out here yet. It's funny that a guy without military experience can fire a general.
Can the boss of Wendy or McDonald's fire a regional manager if he breaks the rules?

The general didn't break Obama's rules. He broke the army's rules to which he fully agreed when signing in. Interestingly, I discussed the subject of politics and orders witin the army with a friend in the US corp who was just back from Afghanistan.

Rules are simple.
1- You obey the orders
2- Weither you like the president or not, he remains your boss.
3- You don't discuss politics with your fellow comrades.

So, Obi did what he had to do. Nothing personal.
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Old 06-24-2010, 01:57 PM   #17
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Maybe I missed it but HAVE ANY OF YOU ACTUALLY READ WHAT HE SAID!!!!! I'm just saying that the I haven't seen the article and am reserving my judgement until then and not now after only hearing what the news is reporting and possible heresay . I was in the military so I know if he put down the Commander and Chief (what the president is) then he seriously F'd up because you don't do that to your chain of command. Come on people use ylour heads!
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Old 06-24-2010, 02:20 PM   #18
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Maybe I missed it but HAVE ANY OF YOU ACTUALLY READ WHAT HE SAID!!!!!
Yup. I read it. It is available online. The dude badmouths every single persone in the chain of command. And foreign diplomats too.

"Biden?" suggests a top adviser. "Did you say: Bite Me?"

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/119236

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Old 06-24-2010, 03:10 PM   #19
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Where in the Army Book rule does he say he couldn't have an opinion. He's f**cking General he is suppose to have an on a war he happens to be in charge to over see,

He did NOT disobey the president btw
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Old 06-24-2010, 03:28 PM   #20
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Where in the Army Book rule does he say he couldn't have an opinion. He's f**cking General he is suppose to have an on a war he happens to be in charge to over see,

He did NOT disobey the president btw
He's allowed an opinion, with the expectation of prudence and tact.
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Old 06-24-2010, 03:45 PM   #21
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Where in the Army Book rule does he say he couldn't have an opinion. He's f**cking General he is suppose to have an on a war he happens to be in charge to over see,

He did NOT disobey the president btw
but you take that opinion to the CiC (even if he is a clueless douchebag) in private behind closed doors or on the phone NOT THROUGH THE TABLOIDS and MEDIA. Its unprofessional and disgraceful to go about it the why it happened. It undermines the command hierarchy of the military from the POTUS down to the lowly Private just getting to boot camp. NOT COOL
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I just wish we could fire Obama for doing us wrong. Someone do something please!!!
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It's very obvious to me that he was just done...But I love that yet another Obama man falls on his face.
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Yup. I read it. It is available online. The dude badmouths every single persone in the chain of command. And foreign diplomats too.

"Biden?" suggests a top adviser. "Did you say: Bite Me?"

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/119236

Actually the article states that his aides said all of those things. I think the only thing that they actually quote him as saying is bitching about not wanting to respond to an email.
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It's very obvious to me that he was just done...But I love that yet another Obama man falls on his face.
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It's very obvious to me that he was just done...But I love that yet another Obama man falls on his face.
maybe im not understanding what you're saying...

but how is mcchystal an obama man?
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maybe im not understanding what you're saying...

but how is mcchystal an obama man?


He was hand picked by Obama and the man even voted (reportedly) for Obama.
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yeah, i dont believe it. the overwhelming majority of the military is republican. and mcccain was in the military. dont see why he wouldnt vote along party lines. so unless you show me proof...

he might have been picked by obama, but that doesnt mean the two liked each other. there is a huge difference between picking someone for a military command and being friends with the guy. its quite obvious mcchystal is not an obama guy with the comments he made.
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yeah, i dont believe it. the overwhelming majority of the military is republican. and mcccain was in the military. dont see why he wouldnt vote along party lines. so unless you show me proof...

he might have been picked by obama, but that doesnt mean the two liked each other. there is a huge difference between picking someone for a military command and being friends with the guy. its quite obvious mcchystal is not an obama guy with the comments he made.


Or maybe you can't accept the fact more and more people see the guy (Oboy)is destroying this great country. As does McCrystal.
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Old 06-30-2010, 03:00 PM   #30
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Or maybe you can't accept the fact more and more people see the guy (Oboy)is destroying this great country. As does McCrystal.
Its no secret we have alot of right wing and left wing extremist on this forum. Let's be honest here, they were shit talking bush when he was in office, so was clinton and everyone else. So this si not any indication of a special case.

I think the argument is that he is in a high position of military office, and aside from the political bs, he jeapordize troupe moral by publicly allowing his person opinion to be heard by others.

Its embarassing, is brash, and most of all its irresponsible. if he was a peon fine. But he has alot of lives in his hand, no matter how much he disagree he should have never let it be on record.
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