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    Originally posted by decay View Post
    my good god. i almost wish you'd quit quoting this fucking idiot if it weren't for the comedy gold.

    wall off california and kick us out of the USA?
    say goodbye to hollywood.
    say goodbye to silicon valley.
    say goodbye to our agriculture.
    between those three, say goodbye to 1/8 of the US's gross domestic product.

    go ahead. we're better off without you.
    Then you will be annexed by Mexico, with no military and no guns to defend your southern boarder whats going to stop them . CA would not last on its own, due in large part to its own stupid liberal politics
    Originally posted by Fusion
    If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
    The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


    The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

    Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
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      Originally posted by mrsleeve View Post
      Then you will be annexed by Mexico, with no military and no guns to defend your southern boarder whats going to stop them . CA would not last on its own, due in large part to its own stupid liberal politics

      Are you for real?

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        Originally posted by mrsleeve View Post
        Then you will be annexed by Mexico, with no military and no guns to defend your southern boarder whats going to stop them . CA would not last on its own, due in large part to its own stupid liberal politics
        You know usually I enjoy it when you enter a debate such as this thread because, although I usually don’t agree with your line of thinking, you do a fair job defending your position. I respect your thought pattern.

        But then every so often your mouth completely disassociates itself from your brain, and you say things like this.

        Unbelievable
        Originally posted by codyep3
        I hope to Christ you have looks going for you, because you sure as fuck don't have any intelligence.
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          Originally posted by Todd Black 88 View Post
          You know usually I enjoy it when you enter a debate such as this thread because, although I usually don’t agree with your line of thinking, you do a fair job defending your position. I respect your thought pattern.

          But then every so often your mouth completely disassociates itself from your brain, and you say things like this.

          Unbelievable
          Well he's right. If that never going to happen scenario were to happen you can say bye bye to the military and the national guard. Unless of course they bought the guard. They would have to buid up an army pretty damn fast. It would quickly become a land grab for Mexico

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            Todd I appreciate that but it was tongue and cheek post meant to make Decay roll his eyes and be just as outlandish as his post......

            That said I can spin up a reasonable defensive position in support it for shits and giggles

            Explain to me why it would not be a land rush for Mexico???? The US shares a nearly undefended boarder with Mexico now, CA would have no means to defend it self. It would be of huge benefit to add the worlds 6th largest economy to its own.

            Then you have the historical settling of CA by Spain and migration of the "mexican peoples" settling further and further north establishing more and more settlements. The US took control in 1848 not all that long ago ( in respect to Spain/Mexico controlling/Settleing the area for nearly 300 years prior) so they have the historic claim to the area.

            Now if you were saying it would remain a US protectorate maybe, from the likes of hostile power sure you have point, we would not have a 1000+ mile undefended boarder at that point..... But Mexico I dont see wasting the energy or resources, since we would still be continuing to trade with CA no matter whos flag would be flying over it, and buying the food, technology, information services, and what not from them. (In Fact I think you would see a lot of those big companies "emigrating" to the US before the ties officially broke)

            It would just be a modest reorganization of NAFTA (even if CA was to stay a Stand Alone) and besides 6% of the population of CA are non legal residents from Mexico as it is now, the toe hold has been established ;)

            See that was fun huh
            Originally posted by Fusion
            If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
            The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


            The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

            Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
            William Pitt-

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              Originally posted by Todd Black 88 View Post
              You know usually I enjoy it when you enter a debate such as this thread because, although I usually don’t agree with your line of thinking, you do a fair job defending your position. I respect your thought pattern.

              But then every so often your mouth completely disassociates itself from your brain, and you say things like this.

              Unbelievable
              No sorry Sleeve is correct.

              If California seceded it would be bankrupt without federal monies. California finances are a joke. As for Silicon Valley? They’d find out quickly they need to sell product to the other 49 states or die.

              I’m all for secession. Go for it. Watching Brown and liberal politicians build high speed trains, letting illegals vote is a recipe for prosperity no?

              LOL. CA frankly is a joke politically. But hey, it’s the state’s choice to go down the road they choose. Good fucking luck.
              Last edited by gwb72tii; 03-08-2018, 09:45 PM.
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                Originally posted by gwb72tii View Post
                If California seceded it would be bankrupt without federal monies. California finances are a joke. As for Silicon Valley?

                :rofl:
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                  Oh Well I went the historic route for more fun but yes seems CA gets a full 36% of its income from federal funds to the tune of nearly a 100b ....



                  This Fact Sheet highlights the impact of federal funds on California's budget and the state's support of health and human services, among other areas of spending.
                  Originally posted by Fusion
                  If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
                  The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


                  The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

                  Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
                  William Pitt-

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                    Originally posted by Wschnitz View Post
                    :rofl:
                    Wschnitz, with all due respect if that’s possible on this forum, CALPERS is completely upside down financially. The high speed train would be impossible without yours and my tax dollars assuming you’re employed up in the socialist haven of B’ham.

                    BTW I had dinner at Rock and Rye last night and it was seriously good. Large selection of bourbon.
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                    Sir Winston Churchill

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                      This is just a dumb thought experiment at this point, stop trying to emotionally portray your opinion as truth just cause California is the easy Conservative bait. You guys ignore all the facts to make your truths the true truth.
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                        Ok

                        So please come back with something that points out where my argument is wrong.

                        And yes CA and IL are easy targets for conservatives, and for good reason.
                        “There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
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                          I gain nothing arguing a point you already Pre-invalidate due to your inability to recognize equivalent factors. Everything is only one way, and its the way that GOP memes say is the way.
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                            you flunk debate up at WWU?
                            “There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
                            Sir Winston Churchill

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                              Originally posted by gwb72tii View Post
                              you flunk debate up at WWU?
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                                Originally posted by mrsleeve View Post
                                Then you will be annexed by Mexico, with no military and no guns to defend your southern boarder whats going to stop them . CA would not last on its own, due in large part to its own stupid liberal politics
                                we have a thing called the national guard. i spent a few years in it. it's a state-funded military. automatic weapons, armor divisions, our own air force, etc... montana should worry about being invaded by canada before california needs to be concerned about mexico.
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