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    #31
    The s14 cam gears are the same as the s38 cam gears (since it is 2/3 of an s38) which were fitted to the 84 M635csi and started production in 1983.

    The m42 cam gears are completely different and were designed like 5/6 years later for the m42 which came out in 89 in europe. You can see the difference with the s38/s14 cam gears looking like a dinosaur based on the m88 cam gear vs the m42 one



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      #32
      I typed in the part number on ebay and several new ones came up. This link shows 5 available.

      https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-BMW-E36...ZRzc0M&vxp=mtr
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        #33
        Originally posted by Codym42 View Post
        I typed in the part number on ebay and several new ones came up. This link shows 5 available.

        https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-BMW-E36...ZRzc0M&vxp=mtr
        Just ordered (2) from the other vendor in Nashville on ebay. Thanks CodyM42, fingers crossed they deliver and are the real deal.

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          #34
          Isn't the M42 / M44 derivative of the M50 family in many ways?
          At least thats what I have always heard it was basically 2/3 of an M5X. I have heard of people saying the pistons and rods from that family work in them.

          Would there be any family similarity in any of the M5X engines (similar to the S14-S38 family resemblance)?
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            #35
            I think that everyone's best bet is the M44. The gears are half the price, and identical except for the TDC indicator pin, which is only needed on the exhaust side. As far as I can tell from photos, the thing is exactly the same (M42 and M44 use the same chain PN), and you might be able to drill/add the pin yourself. Positioning of the pin is not likely to need to be super precise since it only tells the ECU whether cylinder 1 is on its compression or exhaust stroke.

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              #36
              I have 3 m44 engines ,two early ,and a z3 1.9 I know the two early m44's will work,but don't think the z3 will work..different number according to realoem. All in great shape��

              I'm going to rebuild my M42 soon,not sure what shape they are in 164k ��
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                #37
                Originally posted by Codym42 View Post
                I typed in the part number on ebay and several new ones came up. This link shows 5 available.

                https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-BMW-E36...ZRzc0M&vxp=mtr


                Will be buying a set of these tomorrow. Since its payday


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                  #38
                  Well, I ordered 2 today and about three hours later received the dear John email from the vendor refunding my money and apologizing that they showed 10 in stock. They are out. I have to laugh at this point as I now have $200 credits on my credit card from failed purchase attempts in the past three days. Of course I found two more vendors on ebay and bought one from each but I think we all know where this is going to end.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by av8drvr View Post
                    Well, I ordered 2 today and about three hours later received the dear John email from the vendor refunding my money and apologizing that they showed 10 in stock. They are out. I have to laugh at this point as I now have $200 credits on my credit card from failed purchase attempts in the past three days. Of course I found two more vendors on ebay and bought one from each but I think we all know where this is going to end.


                    Damn was really hoping to snag a couple from them.


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                    1991 318i 4dr slick top


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                    Vintage race car revival (2002 content)
                    Mtech 2 turbo restoration
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by av8drvr View Post
                      Well, I ordered 2 today and about three hours later received the dear John email from the vendor refunding my money and apologizing that they showed 10 in stock. They are out. I have to laugh at this point as I now have $200 credits on my credit card from failed purchase attempts in the past three days. Of course I found two more vendors on ebay and bought one from each but I think we all know where this is going to end.
                      I bet they know these are NLA,and bet you will see them back on eBay for twice or three time more
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                        #41
                        2 more separate ebay vendors both sent the refunds last night. That about does it for me. I really hate the idea of buttoning up my engine with all new components and close to $1K invested and have them spinning around two worn parts.

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                          #42
                          There's another solution. Convert to single row timing chain, using Metric Mechanic sprocket and timing chain kit.

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                            #43
                            I am running the single row setup. The cam gears are modified stock ones. So that is not really an option.

                            However, if you are going to have them sell you the kit, you could probably have them do the small extra work to install the reference pin on M44 gears, which I think are identical except for missing that pin.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by fresh_TD View Post
                              There's another solution. Convert to single row timing chain, using Metric Mechanic sprocket and timing chain kit.

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                                #45
                                M44 engines are going to be the (now current) and future donors for us m42 guys. Best way to go here would be to find a local m44 and grab the whole timing case. Deflection wheel for m44 is better and the updated case will direct swap right over.

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