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Old 09-16-2014, 11:09 PM   #1
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Old 09-16-2014, 11:26 PM   #2
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Old 09-17-2014, 01:03 AM   #3
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guessing this is about traffic stop cash seizures, since that's all up in the media lately?

good argument for bitcoin.

find me a cop who understands that what he needs to take my assets is my private key. i dare you.
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Old 09-17-2014, 01:31 AM   #4
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Something like this?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/inv...top-and-seize/
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Old 09-17-2014, 01:32 AM   #5
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Ahhh the Civil Asset forfeiture laws is what I was assuming as well. I tried to get a conversation going about this a few years ago here.

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...olicing+profit

then Dozy brought it back up 2 years ago
http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...olicing+profit
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Old 09-17-2014, 06:39 AM   #6
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Civil forfeiture is unconstitutional court sanctioned left, brought to our society mostly be the drug war.
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Old 09-17-2014, 11:28 AM   #7
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Civil forfeiture is unconstitutional court sanctioned left, brought to our society mostly be the drug war.
thank you for that. I wonder though, when the officer gives you those two options to either give him the money or follow him to the station if you can just have the right to leave. It seems like the first two options rely on your consent.
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Old 09-17-2014, 11:33 AM   #8
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Nope then you will get drug out the car window, beaten, tazed while being yelled at to stop resisting while your arms are at their physical limits of forced contortion and likely broken. maybe even pepper sprayed while they are at it, and thats if your lucky, you would have to consider your self lucky to not get shot anymore for daring to question the authority of a constable
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Old 09-17-2014, 01:14 PM   #9
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I've used the, "Am I free to go?" routine and it worked. hmmm, in the likely scenario they threaten with calling the k-9
http://www.citylab.com/commute/2014/...nes-sure/8293/
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Yup that works then they call the dog and let him stand on your hood and climb all over your nice paint job and scratch and gouge it all too hell. And you HAVE NO RECOURSE with them to recoup the funds to repair it since there was "reasonable suspicion" to call the dog made up or other wise . If the dog trips or steps funny on a rock on the shoulder of the road thats a" hit " and they will rip your shit apart along side the high way and leave it lay for you to figure out how to get back together
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Old 09-17-2014, 04:45 PM   #11
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I have no idea why people consent to searches.

The very best possible outcome is picking up everything that used to be in your car off the side of the road and repacking it into your car.
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Old 09-17-2014, 05:22 PM   #12
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Yup that works then they call the dog and let him stand on your hood and climb all over your nice paint job and scratch and gouge it all too hell. And you HAVE NO RECOURSE with them to recoup the funds to repair it since there was "reasonable suspicion" to call the dog made up or other wise . If the dog trips or steps funny on a rock on the shoulder of the road thats a" hit " and they will rip your shit apart along side the high way and leave it lay for you to figure out how to get back together
As the article says, that would be the case only if you get stopped by a k9 unit.

Just read this concerning cali's laws:
http://www.shouselaw.com/asset_forfeiture.html#1.1

AKA: laws saying you need a conviction regarding to money under $25000. Police can easily get around it.

I saw somewhere that CA ended with a D grade regarding the laws and actions taken place in the name of asset forfeiture. resistance is futile.
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Old 09-17-2014, 06:00 PM   #13
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Most states have a bad record and poor citizen protection laws when it comes to asset forfeiture
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Old 09-19-2014, 09:50 AM   #14
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Sadly it's become such an issue in the US that it's started gaining international attention:

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-29228851

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/america...oney-1.2760736

The more I read and research in to current police practices, the more I'm disgusted and ashamed
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Old 09-19-2014, 12:34 PM   #15
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Can this cameras on all cops thing hurry up too? Govment still thinks its the 80s and everyone is a gang banger slinging drugs packing 9s in their shorts.

Silly laws are silly. Problem is no one is challenging the Civil Forfeiture laws, you gotta lawyer up basically if it happens to you, constitutional rights dont matter anymore.
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