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Old 08-27-2012, 02:34 PM   #1
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*New* Condor Speed Shop Subframe Riser Bushing Review

Condor Speed Shop is back again, with a new product this time.....Subframe riser bushings! They raise the subframe and reduce the amount of negative camber produced when a car is lowered, thus saving you're tires from a short and untimely death.


















Below is a summary of the install and my review on them.

















These press in just like any other bushing. The "smaller" end goes on the top of the subframe while the "bigger" end goes on the bottom. The bushing has 12mm of material taken out of the upper end, thus raising the subframe. Those 12mm of UHMW are then relocated to the bottom of the bushing, giving the riser subframe bushing the same dimensions as a regular subframe bushing, but it positions the subframe higher.



Since the subframe RISER bushings "rise" or raise the subframe, the differential has to be spaced lower so that the driveshaft does not sit cockeyed. So differential spacers were used that I also picked up from Condor Speed Shop.







And might I say that this whole rear end, solid subframe bushings and all, feel awesome! It doesn't make the ride nearly as harsh as most people would tell you. They really just make the car more....one. Between the motor mounts, subframe, trans, diff, and control arm bushings (All from Condor Speed Shop of course ) the car feels and acts more like one piece. It is very predictable and a much smoother ride in my opinion. I showed Rockne, a South Florida local, that they aren't a harsh ride at all! I let him rip my car around and basically gave him an incentive to go out and buy what I have because I'm such a trendsetter If you are looking for anything street/performance/track-bushing wise I would highly recommend switching to solid such as UHMV because I think it doesn't vibrate and squeal like poly. But most of you already know that, dont you I will contribute the knowledge though that solid mounts =/= a harsh ride.

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Old 08-27-2012, 04:55 PM   #2
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I've heard good things about these mounts too. I may redo my entire suspension one weekend with his bushings, I just need to see when i'll have the time. How many people's opinions agreed with yours of "not harsh"? That's very subjective and extremely hard to define. I consider my car a comfortable DD, but I think that solid engine and tranny mounts would push it over the edge to being fairly uncomfortable.
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Old 08-27-2012, 11:25 PM   #3
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Been Running these on the street about 4k miles and love them.
Such a nice setup..

Can't say enough about the condor solid mounts. Perfect fit, awesome feel.
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Old 08-27-2012, 11:30 PM   #4
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I have engine and transmission mounts on mine, everything else is AKG 80A. Wished I knew of Condor before I bought my stuff two years ago.
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Old 08-28-2012, 04:21 AM   #5
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So does he have this kit for sale now?
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Old 08-28-2012, 06:37 AM   #6
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Guys, thanks for the reviews! Much appreciated!

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So does he have this kit for sale now?
The 12mm riser kit will be listed in the next couple days. The current kit is below:


http://www.condorspeedshop.com/colle...me-mounts-uhmw
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:37 AM   #7
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Waiting on my swap mounts to come, can not wait. Supporting the lokes.
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Old 08-28-2012, 01:41 PM   #8
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im thinking of buy the motor ones im thinking wound the car vibrate a bit

http://www.condorspeedshop.com/colle...mount-set-uhmw
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Waiting on my swap mounts to come, can not wait. Supporting the lokes.
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im thinking of buy the motor ones im thinking wound the car vibrate a bit

http://www.condorspeedshop.com/colle...mount-set-uhmw
Vk88ix, you will be surprised about how little the car will vibrate. You will love them, i promise.
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Old 08-28-2012, 08:26 PM   #10
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I have engine and transmission mounts on mine, everything else is AKG 80A. Wished I knew of Condor before I bought my stuff two years ago.
This might be on the list of upgrades....we need to talk
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12mm Rear Subframe Riser Bushing Sets are Available


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12mm Rear Subframe Riser Bushing Sets are here! These solid bushings raise the subframe a full 12mm to correct extreme negative camber on lowered cars. We provide you with differential spacers and longer differential bolts to complete the installation. Pair them with a Differential Mount - UHMW (comparable to Delrin. You will see a 4.0 - 4.5 degrees reduction in camber. Most slammed e30s are at -6 degrees of camber, with this kit, you will be at a tire friendly -1.5 degrees.

The subframe and differential mounting point is the heart of the rear suspension in an E30. When they move, so do all of the rear suspension mounting points. Replacing the stock rubber subframe and differential bushings with UHMW will limit drivetrain and suspension movement and keep your car’s suspension geometry the way it’s supposed to be. They will last longer than the original rubber and do not 'wind up' under load/unload, transferring more power through the axles to the wheels.

"You can compare to Solid Aluminum mounts in stiffness, but to Poly mounts in vibration"

The Condor E30 solid subframe and differential mount bushing kit is a direct replacement for the stock BMW subframe mounts and differential bushing. For BMW e30 (318 323 325 M3, not iX)



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Old 11-20-2012, 06:54 AM   #12
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How many degrees reduction of negative camber?
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How many degrees reduction of negative camber?
4.0 - 4.5 degrees reduction in camber.
Most slammed e30s are at -6 degrees of camber, with this kit, you will be at a tire friendly -1.5
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Old 11-21-2012, 07:53 AM   #14
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Fastest way to correct neg camber! I went the weld in camber correction kit...but still have camber. I think this kit would be a perfect combo to the weld in kit for extremely low track minded e30s. Make use of that full tire contact!

I will be coming back here for my next set of bushings! Do you know if you will be offering them in alum with the 12mm of correction?
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Old 11-21-2012, 04:22 PM   #15
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What's the benefit of an aluminum mount over UHMW?
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