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    #16
    Since I got the dash out I went ahead and lowered the heater/ac box down into the cabin to make room for installing the wiper assembly.

    Got the wiper assembly installed, with new bushings as someone on the forum recommended. Went to install the blower fan and resistor and found out the blower resistor is the wrong style, 4 pin vs 3.

    Started looking carefully at the rear accumulator pipe options, just thinking about what would be cleaner, easier to service, and just more reliable?

    The accumulator pipes come in at least 3 configurations, one with 4 outlets and one with 2. The ones with 2 come with no threaded bongs for temp sensors and one with. I ended up collecting all 3 styles between the 3 engines I've gotten .

    Obviously need to lines for the heater core...and one needed for the expansion tank. Running the expansion tank there are also two options. 740i water pumps have 3 coolant hoses, and 540i water pumps have only two.

    So with 740i pump you have the 2 hoses going straight to the radiator and one hose for the expansion tank. With 540i pump you have just the two radiator hoses, so the expansion tank would need to be run off the back of the engine.

    Obviously there are pros and cons to each configuration here, you want the line to be as clean or straight and expansion tank at the highest position so that's a given. I'll be running one by the firewall on the passenger side where I have most room. Running a coolant line to the front of the engine / water pump doesn't look as clean but it sure looks better from serviceability angle. The rear accumulator pipe area is REALLY tight/busy even with just 2 hoses going to the heater core pipes.

    Need to basically make a decision in the next week or so and order the water pump so I can seal the coolant pipes under the intake manifold and rear pipe up.

    Got a 95 m60b40 540i/6speed manual harness from a member on BFC. I didn't want to run an auto harness and have extra connectors dangling, so hopefully this one will work fine and keep things neat.



    I've been exchanging some messages with DUDMD tuner on BFC as well regarding DME options, I want to ensure there is no off throttle lag/delay with rpm's sticking and also no ECU codes that would show up and cause me to fail BAR test.

    This weekend I have the following on my TO DO list

    Finish up the wiper motor assembly install (need one washer).
    Finish installing the heater/blower fan plastic shrouds (what a major PITA that is).
    Need to get the right 3 pin resistor fan, maybe I'll locate one tomorrow otherwise will need to come back to this again.

    Pull the engine out, lock the flywheel in place with the m6x tools and torque the flywheel bolts
    Install and torque the pressure plate and install the clutch.
    Install x5 oil filter housing o-rings and torque the plate

    Massage the firewall area by the heater core hard lines at the back of the engine
    Massage the passenger footwell area to make room for the exhaust manifold.

    Mount the wilwood bias prop valve
    Run the hard lines to the valve, from the valve.

    Next weekend bolt the engine and trans together and drop it in again as one unit with exhaust manifolds attached.
    Hopefully get the coolant stuff figured out with regards to the rear accumulator pipe and heater hoses.
    Install water pump pipes, water pump and intake manifold.
    Install starter, alternator, pulleys, power steering pump.
    Start on wiring.
    Last edited by Jean; 09-07-2017, 06:50 PM.
    Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



    OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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      #17
      hey, been talking to you on IG.
      good to find your thread.

      -Julian
      We're in deep now boys
      1988 325i SETA - Daily driver
      1988 340iL - Track car
      My M60 V8 swap thread here
      [oo==OO==oo]

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        #18
        Julian - thanks man! Nice talking to you !
        Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



        OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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          #19
          Subscribed. Welcome back Jean!

          Originally posted by whysimon
          WTF is hello Kitty (I'm 28 with no kids and I don't have cable)

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            #20
            Originally posted by FredK View Post
            Subscribed. Welcome back Jean!
            Thanks!

            Today took some hours to get the wilwood 2in 3out valve, and get new hard lines made and routed to how I like them.

            Next up to replace all the soft lines on each corner, have new ones on hands. Old ones I've replaced before some years back but they show some hairline cracks an might as well replace them now before filling and bleeding the system.

            I need to figure out if I can stick the fuel filter somewhere in the back of the car to keep the engine bay as clean and simple as possible, and also not have the fuel filter close to the exhaust manifold.

            Also, the charcoal canister needs to find a good location as well. I am thinking, perhaps I can fit it in the area behind the driver side headlight where I want to mount the oil filter housing (need the lines extended as well).




            Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



            OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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              #21
              Bleeding this system has been a PITA so far. Doing some searching online I've found many threads on the topic of bleeding dual master systems. Gravity bleed, and bleeding by pumping the pedal and releasing air from furthest caliper first only yielded with working rear brakes and no front brakes.

              Example - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Glc51djVn6c

              This reminds me, I need to call Wilwood and ask them if they recommend installing a return spring for the brake pedal?

              Ordered:
              Motiv pressure bleeder from Amazon, hopefully that will get the job done,
              Longer oil filter housing lines, the ones I have are too short and another oil filter housing with the horizontal mounting tab.
              Early 325es expansion tank as well, anybody want a clean late model tank that isn't BROWN in color due to age ? :) I'll throw that in FS thread.

              New knock sensors for the v8 are on the way as well, I messed up years ago when I bought new sensors for my v8 on the stand and they are 3pin style and don't fit the manual engine harness that I plan on using.
              Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



              OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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                #22
                Originally posted by Jean View Post
                Thanks!

                Today took some hours to get the wilwood 2in 3out valve, and get new hard lines made and routed to how I like them.
                Whats the part number for this one? I'm looking at taking the last of my ABS out, and this would solve some issues....
                Dumpster Fire Pilot

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by delamaize View Post
                  Whats the part number for this one? I'm looking at taking the last of my ABS out, and this would solve some issues....
                  Here - https://www.summitracing.com/parts/wil-260-11179
                  Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



                  OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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                    #24
                    Thanks man
                    Dumpster Fire Pilot

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by delamaize View Post
                      Thanks man
                      You are welcome.

                      Today I bled the brakes using Motive Power Brake Bleeder, and as expected bunch of air bubbles still were in the system. Still something isn't quite right, the pedal is firm but not at the first inch of travel.

                      Also, pedal doesn't return by itself to the top position. Front calipers now are working, but they aren't releasing when you aren't on the pedal anymore.

                      Perhaps front calipers are shot after sitting for 4 years, went to Autozone and picked up a rebuilt set of Girling calipers. Beats having to deal with rebuilding then, only $42 with carriers (plus core) per side.

                      In the next day or so I'll throw the new calipers on and bleed the system again and see what happens, the pedal assembly does not come with a return spring and does not mention anything about adding one either. Is it expected that the calipers or masters together should force the pedal to return to it's starting position ?

                      On the good note, I picked up a 404 DME today for $20 and stock 540i airbox for another $20, and x25 pigtail connector so I can start on wiring it up. My chassis currently has a round c101 that I've spliced into the chassis harness as it was originally a rectangular c101. Current 20pin c101 was wired for the m30b35 engine harness.

                      Note for myself on current c101 wiring-

                      thin blue wire
                      thin green/brown
                      thin purple/brown
                      thin white/green

                      thicker white/green
                      thicker purple/green

                      thick solid green
                      thick yellow/black

                      and 4 wires I ran separate, for check engine light, ac, speed sensor?

                      thin black
                      thin grey

                      thin black/purple
                      thin black/white
                      Last edited by Jean; 09-24-2017, 04:43 PM.
                      Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



                      OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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                        #26
                        Replaced all four calipers today with rebuilt OEM units.
                        Replaced front hubs/bearings since I had a new set waiting to be installed.

                        Pedal is nice and firm, all four calipers are working as they should and the pedal does return and calipers aren't dragging like they did before. I still do have about 3/4-1" of slack/dead space with the brake pedal that I need to figure out though. Looks like I'll be removing the pedal box again, and see about adjusting the MC rod length to push the pedal further "in" to get rid of the slack and try this again.... SIGH.

                        Engine wise, got new knock sensors. Waiting for crankcase ventilation pipe to arrive before I install intake manifold with all new gaskets, and new rear PCV unit.

                        Clutch pivot ball, slave cylinder , 95c thermostat, new housing are in the mail. Ordered new spark plugs, spark plug boots, crank and cam sensors.

                        Still undecided on 540i vs 740i water pump, 540i pump means I'll have to tie the expansion tank at the back of the engine where there is little room vs 740i pump where I can tie the expansion tank at the front straight to the pump and keep the rear of the engine with only 2 hoses (heater core). Leaning towards 740 to be honest.

                        Feels like I haven't made any progress these last 2 weeks due to constantly figuring out brakes situation....really annoying. As soon as this is figured out, engine and trans are going in.

                        I got 740i oil filter housing lines and 740i oil filter housing, the lines are longer and I can install it behind driver side headlight vs on the engine so that it won't interfere with the upper radiator hose.

                        Early shifter console has arrived, need new bushings and figure out what shifter rod to get. I am thinking if I mount the early console on top of the trans tunnel I'll need a shifter rod with longer lower section below the ball, so will need to see what is out there. I've used a z3 shifter before, but with a different console configuration .
                        Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



                        OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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                          #27
                          Sweeeeet. Welcome back Jean!

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                            #28
                            Awesome build you have planned.
                            AWD > RWD

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Wh33lhop View Post
                              Sweeeeet. Welcome back Jean!
                              Originally posted by Kershaw View Post
                              Awesome build you have planned.
                              Thanks!

                              Just noticed there are Ventus RS-4 245/40/15 tires out there now, will need to check out reviews and see if they are worth getting until next season of SCCA solo2 starts.

                              And there is also Hoosier A7 in 245/45/15 as well WOW! Maybe I'll stick with current 15x8s for now to save some cash and not go with 15x9-15x10 wheels just yet.
                              Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



                              OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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                                #30
                                Engine looks good in there mate. Yours is coming along in leaps and bounds now. Won't be too long and you'll be firing it up.

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