Let’s talk about Antifa.

[rturbo 930]

That's lies and slander though. He was a scapegoat against nationalism thrown under the bus along with the German people by Zionist globalists.
So let's ignore the 88 part then since Americans are so brainwashed about the reality of that phony war.

Not the point. The point is what other people think, and you know damn well that Hitler's name may as well be Voldemort. So if someone sees you praising Hitler, it looks really really bad. That is not going to get people on your side. If you only want to be right, then who cares. If you want people to join your cause, you may reconsider your tactic.

how in any way are the fourteen words considereed a message of hate?

For people who promote diversity, they're kind of a problem.

[decay]

i personally think y'all should disengage him like i did.

particularly because i don't want to read his racist shit when you're quoting it.

[Hooffenstein HD]

Not the point. The point is what other people think, and you know damn well that Hitler's name may as well be Voldemort. So if someone sees you praising Hitler, it looks really really bad. That is not going to get people on your side. If you only want to be right, then who cares. If you want people to join your cause, you may reconsider your tactic.

For people who promote diversity, they're kind of a problem.

I said forget the 88.

Diversity the good old code word for anti-white. You've proved my point though. They are not words of hate at all and the only people that have a problem with the message are anti-white racists.

[Hooffenstein HD]

i personally think y'all should disengage him like i did.

particularly because i don't want to read his racist shit when you're quoting it.

Still as pathetic and devoid of reason as ever.

[E30 Wagen]

I just want to make sure everyone here knows that, despite my views defending white people from being blamed for everything, I'm definitely not in Hooffenstein's camp...

Hooffenstein, I think you really need to take a step back...

[Hooffenstein HD]

Relevant

[mjimport]

Very sad, reminds me of my church, small town, small congregation. No reason at all for this.

Just as sad that politicians immediately jump to their platform.

To me, this just sheds enormous spot light on a deeper rooted issue with mankind.
The answer to all this has been documented and reproduced more than any other document in the history of the world.

But, more and more people are self-righteous enough to think they have the capacity to develop their own standard of “good” for the entire universe.

Good luck with that, it’s going great so far....

Ok, back to the antifa topic!

[decay]

wait, is he claiming that church shooter yesterday was antifa?

utterly predictable horseshit.

[decay]

back on topic: i like how alex jones is claiming saturday's "antifa revolution" was a failure.

yeah, sorry for not doing that shit we never said we were going to do.

[z31maniac]

Conspiracy theory time:

All the highly publicized mass shootings are "false flag" operations designed to solidify the public's desire for strict gun laws/confiscation.


I was at the Bedlam football game this weekend (OU vs OSU for those that don't know), as we were standing around for the "Spirit Walk," where the band and football players walk from the Student Union to the stadium.

Literally thousands and thousands of people lining the narrow street without much obstruction. All campus buildings are still open, many with rooms that face street or would provide a good sniping spot.

Sure there are cops and security meandering around but not much, one or more persons would do serious damage. A few well placed IED's along the route placed the evening before or a few days before.


A relatively unguarded event upwards of 60k+ people that happens in multiple locations across the country every weekend for months on end during the fall and into winter, and these are never targeted.

[decay]

it's pretty simple- this guy was just an asshole. he was jailed and then dishonorably discharged from the air force for beating his wife and kid. let's apply occam's razor here. is that the kind of shitbag that would decide a church is a target-rich environment?

now go make a conspiracy theory thread and stop dragging my shit off-topic, jerk :P

[supermansocks95]

Conspiracy theory time:

All the highly publicized mass shootings are "false flag" operations designed to solidify the public's desire for strict gun laws/confiscation.


I was at the Bedlam football game this weekend (OU vs OSU for those that don't know), as we were standing around for the "Spirit Walk," where the band and football players walk from the Student Union to the stadium.

Literally thousands and thousands of people lining the narrow street without much obstruction. All campus buildings are still open, many with rooms that face street or would provide a good sniping spot.

Sure there are cops and security meandering around but not much, one or more persons would do serious damage. A few well placed IED's along the route placed the evening before or a few days before.


A relatively unguarded event upwards of 60k+ people that happens in multiple locations across the country every weekend for months on end during the fall and into winter, and these are never targeted.

I actually like these tin-foil-hat things. There should be a conspiracy thread, if there isn't one already.

[Garage30]

Decay, you seem to stand for the right to self defence (with firearms), freedom of speech and generally seem to respect the constitution. If you were to have a pro-gun/freedom of speech rally in a major city where I live (in europe), I would bet money Antifa would show up, label you a fascist, and bash your teeth in.

I find it weird you affiliate yourself with antifa. Antifa in my opinion is the other side of the authoritarian coin, since most antifa members are socialist/communist. If I look at my country, the vast amount of political violence is instigated from the far left and radical muslims.

I would say liberalism (in the classical sense) is the opposite of fascism and communism. Or libertarianism/individualism. Would that not fit you way better?

[decay]

Decay, you seem to stand for the right to self defence (with firearms), freedom of speech and generally seem to respect the constitution.

i support the right to defend one's home with a firearm. i do not own one, but i'm pretty good with them ("expert" qualification while i was in the army :))

freedom of speech, yes. respect the constitution? i swore an oath to defend it. these are reasons to dislike fascism.

If you were to have a pro-gun/freedom of speech rally in a major city where I live (in europe), I would bet money Antifa would show up, label you a fascist, and bash your teeth in.

i don't think a pro-gun rally is necessary, even here in california. my friends have several, even if i don't like the stupid features my buddy dave's AR15 has to have. i'm aware that attitudes towards gun ownership in europe differ greatly.

define in a little more detail what a "freedom of speech" rally looks like, please. who's holding it and what's their ideology? that would determine whether i show up in the first place and why.

and i've been involved in antifa events, but only locally.

I find it weird you affiliate yourself with antifa. Antifa in my opinion is the other side of the authoritarian coin, since most antifa members are socialist/communist. If I look at my country, the vast amount of political violence is instigated from the far left and radical muslims.

there's more than one flavor. if you see someone wearing a jacket with the iron front logo (see avatar)- they are advocating against 3 things with those arrows: fascism, monarchism, and communism.

that is entirely compatible with my world-view; but right now i consider the first of the three the biggest threat (edit: on american shores).

it's possible that the demographics of people who call themselves anti-fascist look different in europe and america?

I would say liberalism (in the classical sense) is the opposite of fascism and communism. Or libertarianism/individualism. Would that not fit you way better?

yup, i said up-thread that i generally agree with libertarianism. i don't see that as incompatible with what i've said above. what would i actually describe myself as? an anarchist who accepts that he has to work within a given system or find a way out of it.

[kickinindian]

i personally think y'all should disengage him like i did.

particularly because i don't want to read his racist shit when you're quoting it.

yea im done lol he proved what i figured he was. :hitler::hitler::hitler: