Zen Performance Stress Bars

[Fidhle007]

$4 and not a penny more. What have you got for me?

[JGood]

Considering the cost. What would you pay for perfection, just that little push over the edge of good enough compared to the best shit ever?

Why are you directing that question towards a forum of DIY'ers who own sub $5k cars?

You are not going to get the answer you are looking for...

[madness3]

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[StereoInstaller1]

Hey DCColegrove, if you are gonna PM me calling me a "waffleswaffleswaffleswaffles", why don't you prove me wrong?

Lets see some actual proof, not just hyperbole bullshit to go with your bullshit attitude.

Are you just mad because I was the first to call bullshit on your little charade?

Your bars are beautiful. I think the set I installed on a R3V members car were yours, I don't know...but they looked the same. Fit was excellent, except in the rear where I installed the subwoofer...so no bar.

Are they good enough to reduce chassis flex 300%? Uuuuuuum, I think not.

[DCColegrove]

Hey DCColegrove, if you are gonna PM me calling me a "waffleswaffleswaffleswaffles", why don't you prove me wrong?

Lets see some actual proof, not just hyperbole bullshit to go with your bullshit attitude.

Are you just mad because I was the first to call bullshit on your little charade?

Your bars are beautiful. I think the set I installed on a R3V members car were yours, I don't know...but they looked the same. Fit was excellent, except in the rear where I installed the subwoofer...so no bar.

Are they good enough to reduce chassis flex 300%? Uuuuuuum, I think not.

You don't read very carefully do you.

(though I do agree with you about my attitude, only gets worse the older I get).

[StereoInstaller1]

PROOF, not hyperbole.

Actual numbers that come from a machine...300% my ass.

And quit PMing me.

[DCColegrove]

7mm (New Bar) vs 22mm (Sparco) total torsional movement on the 4 post shaker

[Fidhle007]

My ex girlfriend had a four post shaker. That damn thing put me out of a job...

[StereoInstaller1]

Hey asshole, I said to QUIT FUCKING PMing ME!

Is this really the kind of conversation that belongs here in the threads?

Your talking out the side of your neck and accuse me of ripping some one off 4 bolts...drill some holes...

Perhaps that's the way you would do it.

If we were standing around and you said that I'd knock you right the fuck out.

The bar you probably installed was one of the original ones by John Mason I didn't begin selling our version directly to users untill about a month and a half ago.

When I install them I weld in captured nuts and backing plates on the rear the front isn't much different except that it's from a different type of stock and finish.

and the 300% was a measured difference of 7mm compared to 22mm in total front to rear total twist on the shacker verses the original front braces (Sparco) we used to use.

Wow. Fucking hoo-ray, you finally quantified. Since you have been such a dick, I don't necessarily believe you...aaaand since your site has nothing but verbiage and "attitude" with ZERO FUCKING SUBSTANTIATION, I am even more inclined to not believe you.

Maybe if I saw actual work being done for the $180, I wouldn't call it a ripoff. In fact, I would go as far as to say that $180 is a fine price for what you described...but your bullshit attitude that simply saying "we are the best of the best" does not do shit for me.

Telling the story of what actually went down does.

So, instead of having this "Holier than thou" attitude, why don't you show some evidence? Why not try a little humility, Mr. Zen?

Instead, all I see was a fucking asshole who thinks his shit doesn't stink.

Oh yeah, before I forget... tell you what, buckwheat, you sure as fuck would NOT be "knocking me right the fuck out"...Trust me on that.

[Fidhle007]

Dayum, Zenny be e-thuggin yo!

[Farbin Kaiber]

Just a great way to get a new product line out there. Didn't Massive Lee threaten to shoot the founders of r3v over banjo bolts?


All I can say is I will not buy your products, I'd rather pay someone 20% more for a discount in attitude.

[E30Idea]

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madness3
Noobie
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: California
E30: 1991 Zen tuned 325is
Posts: 21

FYI.... This is where you stood when you started this thread lil guy. You have just commited R3v suicide. The worst part, is that you took your friend DCColegrove down with you. GL with the business you two. You are going to need all the luck you can get.

IBTL ~ Ryan

[Farbin Kaiber]

http://www.zen3bags.com/

[DCColegrove]

...Oh yeah, before I forget... tell you what, buckwheat, you sure as fuck would NOT be "knocking me right the fuck out"...Trust me on that.

No? Making decisions based on insufficient information can be foolish.

Me, I generally don't give a shit what people think, I've been in this industry long enough to have heard and seen most everything.

True, I am an asshole, I even have a certificate of "Upgrade from Asshole to Righteously Fucked Individual" hanging on the wall at the shop. Just the way I am.

Whether you believe me or not isn't important to me...However, calling me a rip off will piss me right the hell off and if we were standing in the same spot I would knock you right the fuck out (unless of course you are a Marine DI, then we may just end up knocking the snot out of each other).

[madness3]

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