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    #16
    Originally posted by TimeMachinE30 View Post
    Ya, where's his Nobel?

    DJT has overseen more construction than anyone here. Please, if you have more experience, let us know your CV before saying anything else...
    The government is not a business nor should it be. In many ways it's job is to fulfill societal needs that the free market can't. Just because the Mango Mousolini has built golf courses and casinos doesn't make him qualified to be President.

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      #17
      Weren't the bankruptcies companies he had control of too? vs the companies he just owns part of are usually fine cause they are not run by an idiot?
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        #18
        Originally posted by decay View Post
        ok, both of you have strongly espoused an ideal of minimal government intervention in the past. i actually agree with that, most of the time. (this is one place where us anarchists have more in common with you righties than ya might think.)

        however-comma

        if you're going to go hardline on that point, it's a bit hypocritical to make the excuse that drumpf was just "operating within the given framework".

        i think that indicates that both of you are tacitly acknowledging that what we have in place is not enough to prevent bad actors from doing things that are detrimental to our economy and society as a whole; and that situation is why we do sometimes need laws like Dodd-Frank; whether or not that might align with your ideals as libertarians, or mine as anarchist.

        Hmmm, I don't think it would be fair to put me as far right as sleeve, it's plainly obvious that there are very needed and helpful regulations in all sector of the economy.

        EPA in Ohio. Deregulation of banks allowing the massive run CDOs that ruined housing, etc. We could go on and on and on about much regulation that has been helpful.........and we could do the same thing on regulations that have been detrimental.


        And yes, I plainly stated, "He played by the rules to his advantage. If you think the rules are flawed, then change the rules."

        I'm not saying I don't think the rules are jacked, they are, but he played by them.
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          #19
          Originally posted by z31maniac View Post
          Hmmm, I don't think it would be fair to put me as far right as sleeve, it's plainly obvious that there are very needed and helpful regulations in all sector of the economy.

          EPA in Ohio. Deregulation of banks allowing the massive run CDOs that ruined housing, etc. We could go on and on and on about much regulation that has been helpful.........and we could do the same thing on regulations that have been detrimental.


          And yes, I plainly stated, "He played by the rules to his advantage. If you think the rules are flawed, then change the rules."

          I'm not saying I don't think the rules are jacked, they are, but he played by them.

          If he did not collude with the Russians.......

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            #20
            People are trying to find any reason to say Trump colluded with Russia. It's BS... he won the election because people were angry at the Dems for putting Hillary in as candidate. She was not, and still is not a good presidential candidate. She did a good job losing.
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              #21
              Hillary was a horrible candidate no doubt but Trump is a horrible President. He has no clue what it is to serve, no interest in helping anyone but himself and will most likely not stop his nonsense until even staunch Republicans go against him.

              Also whether he or his campaign colluded there is no doubt the Russians meddled extensively in the election.
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                #22
                Originally posted by estoguy View Post
                People are trying to find any reason to say Trump colluded with Russia. It's BS... he won the election because people were angry at the Dems for putting Hillary in as candidate. She was not, and still is not a good presidential candidate. She did a good job losing.
                She was a better candidate than Trump but that's not saying much. And that's why Republicans have no room to talk. Out of all the people to choose from, they picked the one candidate that was worse than Hillary.

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                  #23
                  The best analogy I heard was on the Daily show. Hillary was like being hit by a car, you have a broken leg, maybe a broken rib but you are going to be ok. Trump is like being hit by a car, run over backward again and killed.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by LBJefferies View Post
                    She was a better candidate than Trump but that's not saying much. And that's why Republicans have no room to talk. Out of all the people to choose from, they picked the one candidate that was worse than Hillary.
                    Nah, Hillary was and still is far worse.

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                      #25
                      How could Russians even meddle in an American election? It makes next to no sense. What's with all you lefties acting like Russia is the worst thing in the world too? That also makes no sense. The cold war is over.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by parkerbink View Post
                        Hillary was a horrible candidate no doubt but Trump is a horrible President. He has no clue what it is to serve, no interest in helping anyone but himself and will most likely not stop his nonsense until even staunch Republicans go against him.

                        Also whether he or his campaign colluded there is no doubt the Russians meddled extensively in the election.
                        How did Russia meddle?

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Mediumrarechicken View Post
                          How did Russia meddle?
                          Google it.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by parkerbink View Post
                            Google it.
                            Google it and you'll find a whole bunch of leftard propaganda and zero facts based around empirical evidence.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Hooffenstein HD View Post
                              Google it and you'll find a whole bunch of leftard propaganda and zero facts based around empirical evidence.

                              And right wing denial as well as nonsense denying all of our intelligence agencies say they did.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by parkerbink View Post
                                And right wing denial as well as nonsense denying all of our intelligence agencies say they did.
                                Well, I'm not right or left wing, I'm pretty much against all sides of the government. Still not finding any evidence for Russian collusion in the US election process though, nor am I making any sense of how they'd even meddle. Did they hack your voting system and vote for Trump? Actually think I've heard more about the democrats casting false votes. Dead people usually don't get up to vote although they somehow managed to vote for Hillary.

                                Even if Russians are responsible for the leaks of information about HRC/Dems, they'd have nothing to worry about if they had nothing to hide.

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