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    #16
    Originally posted by gwb72tii View Post
    convenient that Cohen cops a plea that Trump will have no opportunity in a court of law to disprove

    If impeachment proceedings or criminal charges are filed... of course he will have the opportunity. Unfortunately for Trump, I think that Cohen got that plea by providing evidence that corroborates his story already... so Trump will have a hard time disputing that. It's not just Cohen's word that got him a plea deal.


    You really are Trump or die huh? No room for anything (facts, opinion, or otherwise) that might show him to be just as shady as any other politician. I can not stand Trump, but I was/am willing to wait until all this garbage sees the light of day before passing judgement on him as POTUS. But it isn't looking very good for him. He might not make the end of his first term at this rate.
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      #17
      Originally posted by decay View Post
      you mean that court of law in which he plead guilty?

      it's fucking disgusting how the right thinks their opinion should override established process because they disagree with the outcome. shame on you, boy.
      you misunderstand my point.

      Cohen cops a guilty pleas to avoid other charges, admits guilt to something other legal experts say is no crime. And that is used as pressure point to attack Trump.

      And because he has admitted guilt, there will be no trial for Trump to disprove what Cohen pleads guilty to.

      Convenient eh?
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        #18
        Originally posted by Schnitzer318is View Post
        If impeachment proceedings or criminal charges are filed... of course he will have the opportunity. Unfortunately for Trump, I think that Cohen got that plea by providing evidence that corroborates his story already... so Trump will have a hard time disputing that. It's not just Cohen's word that got him a plea deal.


        You really are Trump or die huh? No room for anything (facts, opinion, or otherwise) that might show him to be just as shady as any other politician. I can not stand Trump, but I was/am willing to wait until all this garbage sees the light of day before passing judgement on him as POTUS. But it isn't looking very good for him. He might not make the end of his first term at this rate.
        Well if there is evidence he needs to hang. So far what has been shown is Trump is no different than any other recent President. Except he lies to your face.

        The left has pushed constitutionalists, conservatives and independents into a corner of having to look the other way at Trump's lies etc. in order to get what they want, what other Presidents with beautiful speeches and public approval polling data promised and didn't deliver.
        Last edited by gwb72tii; 08-24-2018, 08:43 AM.
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          #19
          Any one ever consider Cohen took the plea to keep all those records seized from his office under questionable pretense to keep them from becoming public record in full on court proceedings, or maybe to prevent further prosecution in other matters that may be discovered. You know fall on his sword kinda thing, would not be the 1st lackey to do something like that
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