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    Sorry for the lack of turbo updates I've been busy with our first born and building a garage. The e30 has been killing it doing dad stuff. I've put 12k miles on it since I swapped it, and it hasn't given me any issues at all.

    I can't really work on any cars at the moment as we are building a garage addition. I won't have a free space of concrete to jack up the car till construction is done at the end of January.

    After the garage is complete I plan on taking the e30 off the road, swapping out the g240 for a g260, and doing all the turbo stuff.
    I took the car to a euro car show not to long ago and ran it down the 1/4 mile a couple times just to see what it would do.
    Let's just say I was a little disappointed.

    Keep in mind that was on stock 6" wide bottle caps and a 3.64 diff. I could not floor it in first gear at all. With some decent rubber in the back I'm sure I could pull a 2.0 60 foot and get a 14.5 sec pass. My trap speed was a pretty good indicator that the car should run a faster time if traction was not an issue.
    Oh yeah I picked up a clapped out 540i 6 speed to drive around while the e30 is down. 227k miles and runs like a champ.

    Funny it gets better MPG than the e30.

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      Not surprised on the 540i getting better economy than the e30 - the M30 loves to drink fuel that's for sure!

      Good to see the e30 on Dad duties - I used mine for the same for 10 years & around 150,000km (as a 2.0L auto for the first 50,000km, then as an M30B35 Manual for 100,000km). Served its purpose just fine :D
      My e30: OEM+ with M30B35

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        Boooomp
        1990 Brilliantrot 325iS Build Thread
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          Originally posted by AWDBOB View Post
          Boooomp
          I thought you were M30 swapping Linda?

          My brother bought a OK condition US 635csi to replace his wrecked euro 635, and then promptly turbocharged it.

          Junkyard B35, custom inverted exhaust manifold turbo manifold, 62/66 precision turbo on pump gas. At 12psi it made 320whp and 350wtrq.

          Long story short, after setting up 2 step on his megasquirt he eventually broke 2 rocker arms on cylinder 3 while on 2 step.

          Being a good brother, I offered him my cylinder head off of my e30. Before I swapped the car I had it tanked, decked, valve guides replaced, and a valve job performed. Basically a stock rebuilt B35 head with HD rockers and rocker locks.

          Both engines looked pretty good with the heads off.
          E30

          E24

          So now with my new junkyard head being rebuilt I wanted to make sure this would be the most reliable head I could build for abuse.
          I had IE HD rockers on my previous head and never had a problem with them. However for this head I decided to go with an indestructible rocker arm. K&M Cams sells a M10/M30 steel rocker arm, and really the price isn't that bad considering this will be the last set of rockers I will have to buy.

          I spent an hour polishing the pads.


          I also ordered a DBilas 290 cam with 12mm of lift.
          My garage addition is only a few days from being completed. Just have to epoxy the floors and then I can start wrenching hardcore again.



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            Awesome progress on the garage, and your brother's car is probably a blast to drive! Also, did you see Metric Mechanics just released an M10/M30 rocker arm? I sent them an email inquiring about price.

            I was going to m30 swap Linda, but I had 5 e30 projects going on at one time, and the m30 parts I had were all over the place and incomplete so I just sold it all to start fresh. I've got two more cars to sell, once those are gone I have to bring the M3 out to Indiana, and then I'm going to buy a manual E34 535i donor car to get the job done once and for all. Long to-do list, but if I do it in the right order I'll actually get it done.

            Until then, I'm just living vicariously through your build and Anthony B's build.
            1990 Brilliantrot 325iS Build Thread
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              Originally posted by AWDBOB View Post
              Awesome progress on the garage, and your brother's car is probably a blast to drive! Also, did you see Metric Mechanics just released an M10/M30 rocker arm? I sent them an email inquiring about price.
              I've never bought anything from MM, but I have read people expressing their discontent for that shop in forums.
              I bought my rockers from Pure PF in Sweden. Took about a week from ordering till they were delivered and cost $520 shipped.

              One thing about the steel rockers is that they don't use a softer bearing material at the rocker shaft, is just steel on steel. We will see how long they last.


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                Originally posted by st.petebiodiesel View Post
                I've never bought anything from MM, but I have read people expressing their discontent for that shop in forums.
                I bought my rockers from Pure PF in Sweden. Took about a week from ordering till they were delivered and cost $520 shipped.

                One thing about the steel rockers is that they don't use a softer bearing material at the rocker shaft, is just steel on steel. We will see how long they last.
                The MM ones are $50ea, they said it'd be $625 out the door after shipping. I think I'll just get the IE HD ones when the time comes, with those eBay rocker locks you showed me.
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                  The garage is complete!

                  The baby and the dog are just as excited as I am.

                  Finally had the e30 towed over to it's new home.

                  I'm having my camshaft and valve train parts delivered tomorrow. If the machine shop finishes replacing my valve guides in a timely manner then I should be putting this head back together within a week.

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                    That's awesome! I won't share a pic of mine as it has structural issues that have resulted in the floor cracking and dropping a foot in the middle of the garage! Still using it for storage, but you can't get a car in there.

                    Nice work on the porta cot in the garage... you can tinker with the e30 AND keep an eye on your baby at the same time :)
                    My e30: OEM+ with M30B35

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                      Check out these lobes!


                      Had a fun time getting the cam nut off the old cam. They are torqued to 100 ftlbs.

                      Cam specs:
                      duration intake/exhaust 290/290
                      Lift intake/exhaust 11mm/11mm
                      Lobe separation angle 108.
                      Degrees of overlap 13
                      Lift at TDC I/E. 2.5mm/2.5mm
                      Probably not going to run this cam when I turbo the car.

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                        holy lobes, congrats on the garage!

                        also your dog changed colors, what gives?
                        1984 Delphin 318i 2 door

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                          That’s the dbilas 290 from that group but correct? I’ll totes buy it from ya once you go turbo.
                          1990 Brilliantrot 325iS Build Thread
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                            Guys, this is always hard to admit but I've had quite the streak of bad luck.
                            I got my head back from the machine shop. All new exhaust guides, good as new.

                            I assembled the head installing my new indestructible K&M steel rocker arms, rocker locks and high lift high duration camshaft.
                            Got it running with break in oil, even took it to a car show with some friends. It sounded super mean at idle.

                            Later the next day the engine developed a terrible tick. I attempted to diagnose the source and prudently decided to pull the head to find the source. My brand new rocker failed in 300 miles!


                            How could this happen? I thought these were the last set of rockers I would ever have to buy.
                            I contacted K&M Cams and they promptly sent me a replacement rocker.
                            I assembled the valve train and ran the engine once again. It had an even louder knock now. Apparently I now had a bent valve that no longer would return until tapped by the piston.
                            So once again, head back off again.

                            I have no idea what would cause the valve to bend especially at the top portion of the valve stem.

                            I replaced the valve with a good used one, re assembled the engine and drove it for another 300 miles before it developed a familiar sounding tick. I pulled the valve cover and now I have another rocker pad excessively worn attempting to ruin my brand new cam.
                            I don't understand why my rockers are failing. New camshaft, new rockers, new valve springs, retainers, and collets.
                            I'm even running a ZDDP addative.
                            So basically I spent $500 on rockers that fail randomly every 300 miles. 1st failure was #1 intake, second failure #4 intake. My cam isn't damaged so I assume the rockers were improperly heat treated or something. I know I have sufficient lubrication. I even ran my engine breifly with the valve cover off. (Don't do this unless necessary, it makes a huge mess)

                            I'm going back to the IE HD rockers. The failure rate on the K&M steel rockers is unreal.



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                            Last edited by st.petebiodiesel; 03-17-2019, 06:18 PM.

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                              So sad to read this...
                              Hopefully you get it on the road once more and never have to go through this crap again.
                              Oh, I love your garage!
                              '85 Alpine Weiß 2-door with m20b30 ground up build

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                                holy smokes thats so frustrating! Would love to hear some lopey idle clips when this is back together :devil:
                                1984 Delphin 318i 2 door

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