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    The Poor Man's M50 3.0l Stroker Dyno Numbers are in.

    Numbers are in on the poor man's 3.0l M50 Stroker. (AKA The Halfassenberg 3.1l M50)

    Technically a 3050cc engine.

    Mustang Dyno -> 183rwhp / 167tq

    Worth mentioning - Barry had a lifter completely die on him in the past 2-3 weeks and it started as an on / off noisey lifter and was completely dead by the time his dyno was scheduled. It was ticking louder than a M20.

    Specs:

    M50 Vanos Block
    M54B30 3.0l Crankshaft
    M54B30 Rods
    M54B30 Pistons
    S52B32 Camshafts / Lifters / Trays
    3" MAF
    M50 Non-Vanos Cylinder Head (Fitted with VANOS)
    Technica Motorsports 91 Octane 3.0l M50 Tune (413 ECU)

    Guestimate 10-12%+ if on a DynoJet and 5%+ more once he replaces all his lifters.

    Roughly making 220hp-230hp at the crank.

    #2
    Was hoping for a little better than that... :/

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      #3
      Originally posted by 328ijunkie View Post
      Was hoping for a little better than that... :/
      Right? I was secretly hoping this would convince me to swap in a 24V versus turbo'ing the M42. Guess not.
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        #4
        Originally posted by 328ijunkie View Post
        Was hoping for a little better than that... :/
        Just a 413 ecu with a technica chip, I would not expected much more than that either. Maybe if it had some more tuning done to the chip it might make more. Much like any other 3.0L M/S50

        Do you have dyno plot. How does it look? Flat or all over the place.
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          #5
          dang. coulda done better with an 3.0l M20 ;)
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            #6
            Not really, no boring of block needed and no timing belt is a big plus to me. Not that replacing a belt is that big of a deal.
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              #7
              Interesting. There's definitely more in that motor.

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                #8
                Decent numbers, but definitely more to be had. Greg is probably right about the power curve though, nice and flat.
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                  #9
                  Definitely a lot of potential power with that set up.
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                    #10
                    somethings up the m52 in my car did 210hp / 190tq, at 2.8L, s52 cams, headers, m50 intake and Trm Chip for above mods.

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                      #11
                      my m50b28 made 210whp/195wtq on a dynojet with s50 cams, 21#, headers, stock maf.

                      maybe bad tune?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by ChefSkinny View Post
                        somethings up the m52 in my car did 210hp / 190tq, at 2.8L, s52 cams, headers, m50 intake and Trm Chip for above mods.
                        I find it hard to believe a 2.8l would make that kind of power at the wheels on a Mustang Dyno. Calculated for drivetrain loss (20%) that would mean you claim your m52 makes 252 crank hp which is more than a stock S52 3.2l.

                        More power could be made in replacing the lifters but something to remember is that compression ratio is closer to 10:1~10.5:1 not 11+ like stock M5x/S5x motors have.

                        I will post the print out later today.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by bullet ride View Post
                          interesting. There's definitely more in that motor.
                          +1

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by RobertK View Post
                            I find it hard to believe a 2.8l would make that kind of power at the wheels on a Mustang Dyno. Calculated for drivetrain loss (20%) that would mean you claim your m52 makes 252 crank hp which is more than a stock S52 3.2l.

                            More power could be made in replacing the lifters but something to remember is that compression ratio is closer to 10:1~10.5:1 not 11+ like stock M5x/S5x motors have.

                            I will post the print out later today.
                            Is there any way to check if the vanos is working/runing?

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by King Mufasa View Post
                              Is there any way to check if the vanos is working/runing?
                              Yes, shows on the print out. Kicks in ~ 3500 / 3700ish.

                              I think you guys are overestimating based on most dynos posted are on DynoJets (usually 10-12% higher read outs than Mustang) and the fact that compression is lower which is definitely a factor.

                              M50 deck height is higher than a M54 so the best route on a 3.0l stroker build would be to have a machine shop deck the block a few mm. How much? IDK.. I haven't had time to figure the calculations out.

                              If on a DynoJet it would have been 201whp / 183tq still considering the dead lifter and lower compression ratios.
                              Last edited by RobertK; 03-28-2013, 09:44 AM.

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