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    #31
    Originally posted by parkerbink View Post
    I did not say like it or quit (although that works too) I said when one accepts terms of employment it is disingenuous to demand changes after the fact.

    They have an amazing deal. They get a ton of time off, perks up the ass and all kinds of power with legal ways to monetize the position.

    If they don't like it, they are free to step down.
    Agreed.

    The whole limiting "talent" argument by keeping compensation reasonable is just ridiculous (this is the same argument CEO's have been using for years). There are hundreds of thousands of people who could do those jobs in their places. There is nothing particularly special about most CEO's or Congressmen/women. They would have you believe that there is... but there isn't.

    People like to think they are special and entitled. It feeds the ego. Funny the right wing hates entitlements until it comes to employment compensation.

    Originally posted by BraveUlysses View Post
    wouldn't it be better to pay them more to disincentivize them to monetize their position?
    No. It wouldn't change a thing about the way Washington operates except to line their pockets even further and cost the tax payers more. You want things to get better? Set term limits and throw out Citizens United.
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      #32
      They already make 3x+ the average person and work much less.



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        #33
        Originally posted by BraveUlysses View Post
        wouldn't it be better to pay them more to disincentivize them to monetize their position?
        You ever heard the old phrase of "Give em an inch, and they'll take a mile"?

        Why would giving them more money solve the problem? How did you come to this conclusion? Why do you think this would work? Why do you think a public servant deserves such favorable treatment?

        Do you think this is fair, all things considered?

        Not purposefully trying to stir the pot or upset/challenge you. I am genuinely interested in why you feel this would be a good idea.
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          #34
          When I am looking for a new job, I take all things into consideration. The benefits get converted into monthly cash an added to the offered pay to get a grand total. When you interview for a new position, it's not just the employer interviewing you, you should be just as vigilant and ask your questions as well before getting yourself into a position you don't want to be in.

          I don't understand why there isn't some sort of extended stay living spaces the Fed's can't help provide for with regards to positions like this that require large amounts of time away from home. I work for a medium sized company and they do, or in the least, have deals with extended stay hotels for cheaper prices.

          Buying a second home is just ridiculous.

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            #35
            Originally posted by BraveUlysses View Post
            wouldn't it be better to pay them more to disincentivize them to monetize their position?
            How much does that take?

            Bernie Sanders hasn't worked in the private sector for nearly 40 years and he has a net worth approaching $2 million. And he is one of the poorest!
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              #36
              The congressman's proposal is obviously going to be unpopular but it's not entirely unreasonable imo.

              $173k yr won't go very far paying for a family, a primary residence, and a secondary residence in DC. This discourages those who are not independently wealthy from becoming involved in politics.

              Plus it just sounds like a crappy, thankless job with too much public exposure and fakeness/ass-kissing. Not worth it.

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                #37
                Originally posted by coldweatherblue View Post
                The congressman's proposal is obviously going to be unpopular but it's not entirely unreasonable imo.

                $173k yr won't go very far paying for a family, a primary residence, and a secondary residence in DC. This discourages those who are not independently wealthy from becoming involved in politics.

                Plus it just sounds like a crappy, thankless job with too much public exposure and fakeness/ass-kissing. Not worth it.
                Which they know going in.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by z31maniac View Post
                  How much does that take?

                  Bernie Sanders hasn't worked in the private sector for nearly 40 years and he has a net worth approaching $2 million. And he is one of the poorest!
                  i dunno, i dont have any answers just had some food for thought

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by coldweatherblue View Post
                    $173k yr won't go very far paying for a family, a primary residence, and a secondary residence in DC. This discourages those who are not independently wealthy from becoming involved in politics.
                    so your argument is that to address the issue of unequal access to political power, we should give the people in power more money?

                    are you also a fan of putting out fires with gasoline?
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                      #40
                      I'm not arguing/debating anything.

                      I support term limits and would likely veto the stipend proposal unless it was accompanied by a cutback in another area to stay budget neutral.

                      just saying that personally, I would not want that job and have to pay for housing in DC as well as my primary residence on $173k/yr unless I were independently wealthy, so I understand why someone in that position would make such a proposal. Not saying I support the proposal either.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by z31maniac View Post
                        How much does that take?

                        Bernie Sanders hasn't worked in the private sector for nearly 40 years and he has a net worth approaching $2 million. And he is one of the poorest!
                        40 years at a reasonable salary, x responsible spending x good savings habits x sound investment = not just plausible but likely. My grandparents retired well with a very large net worth despite modest income most of their lives. That and having the farm helped .
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                          #42
                          Originally posted by z31maniac View Post
                          How much does that take?

                          Bernie Sanders hasn't worked in the private sector for nearly 40 years and he has a net worth approaching $2 million. And he is one of the poorest!
                          having $2MM saved up after 40 years is not hard to do, at least mathematically

                          all it takes is discipline and investing

                          have to agree though Sleeve that our congressmen should be spending more of their time at home and not in DC.
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                            #43
                            Originally posted by mrsleeve View Post
                            40 years at a reasonable salary, x responsible spending x good savings habits x sound investment = not just plausible but likely. My grandparents retired well with a very large net worth despite modest income most of their lives. That and having the farm helped .
                            Originally posted by gwb72tii View Post
                            having $2MM saved up after 40 years is not hard to do, at least mathematically

                            all it takes is discipline and investing

                            have to agree though Sleeve that our congressmen should be spending more of their time at home and not in DC.


                            Thank you for proving my point that they are already paid well enough.

                            He even owns a home in the DC area. Frankly I'm shocked at the number of you that think these people need more money.

                            Especially considering they can also supplement their income through outside ventures.
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                              #44
                              Originally posted by z31maniac View Post
                              Frankly I'm shocked at the number of you that think these people need more money.
                              I'm not. Not in the slightest.
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                              87 325 Daily driver Sold
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                              01 323ci Sold
                              92 325i Sold
                              83 528e Totaled
                              98 328i Sold
                              93 325i Sold

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