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  • Skafrog
    E30 Mastermind
    • Oct 2003
    • 1730

    #1

    Engine Fan Delete

    Has anyone here removed their fan clutch assembly, and either A) Ran a hotter thermostat and Water Wetter or B) Installed an electric fan?
    If so, was there any difference in the performance?
    Thanks

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  • Jordan
    R3V OG
    • Oct 2003
    • 12907

    #2
    Re: Engine Fan Delete

    Originally posted by Skafrog
    Has anyone here removed their fan clutch assembly, and either A) Ran a hotter thermostat and Water Wetter or B) Installed an electric fan?
    If so, was there any difference in the performance?
    Thanks
    I think you mean a colder thermostat, and water wetter is a waste of money.

    Plenty of people have done electric fan conversions, its not hard.
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    • Skafrog
      E30 Mastermind
      • Oct 2003
      • 1730

      #3
      yea, my bad. 80 degree vs 72 is colder.
      Have you heard if its even worth it though?

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      • Jonathan M3
        E30 Mastermind
        • Oct 2003
        • 1837

        #4
        If you mean doee it free up alot of hp, then not really, its worth about 2hp.

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        • De //m3
          Advanced Member
          • Oct 2003
          • 165

          #5
          You dont need any fan. Ive talked to guys without it and they sadi it doesnt run noticably hotter. Unless yous sit in traffic alot you should be fine. Standing still would be the one problem of not having any fan.
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          • elemental
            Advanced Member
            • Jan 2004
            • 112

            #6
            I have seen e36's with this mod done, as for the HP+ nominal.. cooling is important and I would whant to risk overheating..

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            • DaN
              E30 Fanatic
              • Dec 2003
              • 1265

              #7
              I wouldn't just run without the fan, unless you live in a cold climate.
              Even still, I would run an electric fan.

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              • fabianyee
                Advanced Member
                • Dec 2003
                • 195

                #8
                I have 2 buddies here done the electric fan conversion on their M40B18 engine...
                Using the electric fan from the E36 318i (M43B18 8V SOHC)

                Simply bolt on and a bit of rewiring...

                Not much horsies but less engine noise... Especially since the M40 is a little rough when compared to the M42....

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                • e9nine
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 1890

                  #9
                  Originally posted by fabianyee
                  I have 2 buddies here done the electric fan conversion on their M40B18 engine...
                  Using the electric fan from the E36 318i (M43B18 8V SOHC)

                  Simply bolt on and a bit of rewiring...

                  Not much horsies but less engine noise... Especially since the M40 is a little rough when compared to the M42....

                  Check here
                  http://forums.bmwclub.com.my/showthr...ght=Fan+Clutch
                  Fabian, would it be too much to ask for the part # and the wiring instructions 8) ? Are they running the fan with an independent power source and having it triggered via a relay running off the temp sensor on the radiator??

                  Thanks

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                  • fabianyee
                    Advanced Member
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 195

                    #10
                    Originally posted by e9nine
                    Fabian, would it be too much to ask for the part # and the wiring instructions 8) ? Are they running the fan with an independent power source and having it triggered via a relay running off the temp sensor on the radiator??

                    Thanks
                    Part number... No have.. but it's from the E36 318i... I suspect there's no M43B18 in the states but would think the M44B18 would have an electric...

                    The fan comes together as an unit with the fan shroud.
                    So to install it in the E30 4 potters, just remove the fan clutch, the shroud and then pin the 'new' shroud onto the radiator... so called plug and play.

                    As for the wiring, it was done by an electrician here... Not DIY...
                    If I recalled correctly, there's 3 speeds for the electric fan.
                    Speed 1 normal
                    speed 2 normal + aircon
                    speed 3 full (when temperature goes above 90 C)

                    the socket goes to the radiator temp sensor. I remembered they mentioned about tapping the current from somewhere, but use the radiator temp sensor to trigger speed 3...

                    you can look out for faulty speed 2 electric fan as the E36 owner would need to replace the electric fan when speed 2 is gone...
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                    • Bryson
                      E30 Fanatic
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 1490

                      #11
                      The new e46s use electric fans, you might be able to adapt one of those instead of a clutch fan, that's what we're planning to do soon, we have one laying around

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                      • george graves
                        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 19986

                        #12
                        check out what the hotrod guys use. It's about 125 for a fan. And another $20 for some mounting kit.

                        I'm plannign on doing this when we do my motor swap this summer.



                        I know some of the M3 guys do this as an upgrade - you might ask around s14.net
                        Originally posted by Matt-B
                        hey does anyone know anyone who gets upset and makes electronics?

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                        • nateb
                          Member
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 54

                          #13
                          Originally posted by george graves
                          check out what the hotrod guys use. It's about 125 for a fan. And another $20 for some mounting kit.

                          I'm plannign on doing this when we do my motor swap this summer.



                          I know some of the M3 guys do this as an upgrade - you might ask around s14.net
                          Is that ultra thin one adequate for daily driving?

                          Thanks
                          -nate-

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                          • Jand3rson
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 37587

                            #14
                            Originally posted by fabianyee
                            Originally posted by e9nine
                            Fabian, would it be too much to ask for the part # and the wiring instructions 8) ? Are they running the fan with an independent power source and having it triggered via a relay running off the temp sensor on the radiator??

                            Thanks
                            Part number... No have.. but it's from the E36 318i... I suspect there's no M43B18 in the states but would think the M44B18 would have an electric...

                            The fan comes together as an unit with the fan shroud.
                            So to install it in the E30 4 potters, just remove the fan clutch, the shroud and then pin the 'new' shroud onto the radiator... so called plug and play.

                            As for the wiring, it was done by an electrician here... Not DIY...
                            If I recalled correctly, there's 3 speeds for the electric fan.
                            Speed 1 normal
                            speed 2 normal + aircon
                            speed 3 full (when temperature goes above 90 C)

                            the socket goes to the radiator temp sensor. I remembered they mentioned about tapping the current from somewhere, but use the radiator temp sensor to trigger speed 3...

                            you can look out for faulty speed 2 electric fan as the E36 owner would need to replace the electric fan when speed 2 is gone...
                            That sounds like a really good idea.

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                            • george graves
                              I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 19986

                              #15
                              Is that ultra thin one adequate for daily driving?
                              don't know - the list CFM's I think - Most of those fans are for street rods - BIG american blocks...I think they can handle a m20 at idle during the summer.
                              Originally posted by Matt-B
                              hey does anyone know anyone who gets upset and makes electronics?

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