R3VLimited Forums  

Go Back   R3VLimited Forums > E30 Technical Forums > Suspension & Unsprung > Springs, Shocks, Sways & Steering

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 04-09-2012, 09:24 PM   #1
Nick's e30
Wrencher
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: America
Posts: 253
Solved

As title states. What is the difference in length between these 2 shock inserts? (the longer part)
Thanks all.
Nick's e30 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2012, 09:25 PM   #2
mr.vang
No R3VLimiter
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Stockton/Sacramento, CA
Posts: 3,842
ix insert are shorter
mr.vang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2012, 09:34 PM   #3
ak-
R3V OG
 
ak-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Hacienda Hts, CA
Posts: 11,014
Images: 3
3"
__________________
_abbi.

http://www.abelvalenzuelastore.com Home interiors; Upholstery, car upholstery, floor covering, window covering, carpets, & all kinds of repair. PM me for exclusive pricing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Good & Tight View Post
schooled his fag ass.
ak- is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2012, 01:40 AM   #4
e30leigh
E30 Addict
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: auckland city, new zealand
Posts: 481
sssooooo, they would suit lowerd cars is you sat a well made 3" spacer under the shock?
e30leigh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2012, 02:07 AM   #5
e46s54dr
E30 Enthusiast
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: socal
Posts: 1,059
Quote:
Originally Posted by e30leigh View Post
sssooooo, they would suit lowerd cars is you sat a well made 3" spacer under the shock?
Seems to me that throwing in an ix strut with a 3 inch spacer will pretty much be the same as a regular strut in terms of travel.

The length of the housing is actually what limits the stroke so Id be more effective if you were to shorten your strut housings an inch or two and throw in the corresponding spacer. That will increase your stroke.
__________________
e46s54dr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2012, 02:26 AM   #6
MR 325
Moderator
 
MR 325's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: La Crescenta, CA
Posts: 36,385
Images: 1399
Quote:
Originally Posted by e30leigh View Post
sssooooo, they would suit lowerd cars is you sat a well made 3" spacer under the shock?
What's the point then? The regular E30 Bilstein Sports are cheaper.

People use the iX inserts with modified (shortened) strut housings.
__________________
M20 & M30 cylinder heads, valvetrain goodies, & much more.
Visit us at www.BimmerHeads.com and take a look around!

MR 325 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2012, 09:56 AM   #7
mr.vang
No R3VLimiter
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Stockton/Sacramento, CA
Posts: 3,842
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick's e30 View Post
Can anyone else confirm that it is exactly 3''? If so, I'll machine a spacer at work today.
Nick
it doesn't work that way for ix insert. you will have to shorten the strut housing. if you want spacer for the insert, make it 2.5 since the insert nut will need space to screw it in.
mr.vang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2012, 01:08 PM   #8
einstein57
R3V OG
 
einstein57's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 10,763
You will have ZERO benefit if you don't section your strut tube. Don't waste your time or money if you don't have plans in hacking at least an 1" out of your tubes.
einstein57 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2012, 01:14 PM   #9
e46s54dr
E30 Enthusiast
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: socal
Posts: 1,059
Youre not quite understanding the concept. If you put the spacer on top of the shock and below the locking nut that'd be even less shock stroke. Think of it as a 3 inch steel bump stop.

A lowered car will usually have 5-6 inches of compression and rebound from its ride height max. In our e30s case, its more like 3-4 inches. Now if you put the spacer on top, you will shorten the piston length that is exposed through the housing. That fact paired with the already shortened ix insert will leave you with pretty much no travel. I doubt you'll even be able to get a spring in between the spring perch and top hat.
__________________
e46s54dr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2012, 01:16 PM   #10
e46s54dr
E30 Enthusiast
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: socal
Posts: 1,059
Simply, you want the most downward travel you can get, not the least.
__________________
e46s54dr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2012, 01:36 AM   #11
MR 325
Moderator
 
MR 325's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: La Crescenta, CA
Posts: 36,385
Images: 1399
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick's e30 View Post
It kind of makes sense now...I think I'm going to just find the correct shocks.
Didn't I already suggest that?
__________________
M20 & M30 cylinder heads, valvetrain goodies, & much more.
Visit us at www.BimmerHeads.com and take a look around!

MR 325 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2012, 05:58 AM   #12
ohthejosh
R3V Elite
 
ohthejosh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: SFC
Posts: 4,709
funny thread but good info still came out of this thread.
__________________
SO MUCH MORE TO DO!!
IG: ohthejosh

LEGIT CHECK ME BRUH
BUYER FEEDBACK THREAD
ohthejosh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2012, 12:15 PM   #13
E30_fiend
R3V OG
 
E30_fiend's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Ventura, Ca
Posts: 7,347
This is the difference between a stock length bilstein sport on the left and a iX bilstein HD on the right.



I dont have a picture of this because I was alone but when I fully compressed the stock length shock, It was about a 1/2" shorter than the fully extended iX bilstein. That just goes to show you are gaining HUGE amounts of travel with a shortened housing and an iX insert. You will drive your frame into the ground and STILL have strut travel.
__________________
Need a performance chip for you BMW? Shoot me a PM and I'll get you taken care of!!
Taylor- Follow me on Instagram @e30_fiend


E30_fiend is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2012, 01:13 PM   #14
LJ851
R3V OG
 
LJ851's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: atlanta
Posts: 6,738
Quote:
Originally Posted by E30_fiend View Post

That just goes to show you are gaining HUGE amounts of travel with a shortened housing and an iX insert. You will drive your oil pan into the ground and STILL have strut travel.
Fixed.





Oh, and thanks for that pic.
__________________
Lorin


Quote:
Originally Posted by slammin.e28guy
The M30 is God's engine.
LJ851 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2012, 10:35 PM   #15
E30_fiend
R3V OG
 
E30_fiend's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Ventura, Ca
Posts: 7,347
Lolol
__________________
Need a performance chip for you BMW? Shoot me a PM and I'll get you taken care of!!
Taylor- Follow me on Instagram @e30_fiend


E30_fiend is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:27 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2004 - 2020 R3VLimited LLC