Kachow! Offset-dish forged pistons

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  • SkiFree
    R3VLimited
    • Jun 2011
    • 2766

    #1

    Kachow! Offset-dish forged pistons

    So after a couple weeks worth of fiddling around I'm happy to say that the new design is finished.

    Started with a mold of the 885 chamber ....



    popped out ....



    Little solid works love ....



    and wah-la these little babies pop out! (these are speced for my stroker build running the 2.9L kit running 84mm crank and 9.75:1 compression)







    ADAMS Autosport
  • jaywood
    R3V Elite
    • Jul 2010
    • 4528

    #2
    Oooooh, looks very nice. What material did you use for the mold?

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    • digger
      R3V Elite
      • Nov 2005
      • 5909

      #3
      Looks good :)

      85 or 86mm bore?
      Last edited by digger; 07-23-2013, 05:27 PM.
      89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

      new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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      • LJ851
        R3V OG
        • Nov 2010
        • 7918

        #4
        Kachow indeed!

        Nice work Andrew.
        Lorin


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        The M30 is God's engine.

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        • SkiFree
          R3VLimited
          • Jun 2011
          • 2766

          #5
          Jaywood -- The mold was made from 80a urethane. Would have liked to use epoxy but the stuff is getting difficult to get in small quantities. As it turned out the sensors picked up everything fine.

          Digger -- Went conservative; 85mm bore.

          Lorin -- Thanks, just one step closer.

          The other upside to these is we'll be able to use them for the stroker kits and custom piston orders without bumping the price up.
          ADAMS Autosport

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          • digger
            R3V Elite
            • Nov 2005
            • 5909

            #6
            Any reason for not simply mapping the 8.8 or 9.7:1 piston?
            89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

            new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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            • CarsSuck
              E30 Modder
              • Oct 2005
              • 968

              #7
              any chance in getting these for an 89.6mm crank? They're almost as common as 2.8 cranks.
              --Will

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              • MR 325
                Moderator
                • Oct 2003
                • 37825

                #8
                Wow Andrew, nice!
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                • AlphaE
                  E30 Addict
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 503

                  #9
                  some jerks have ALL the cool toys:) :) super jealous! especailly of the fact that you have the means to do that kinda work. VERY COOL!!
                  Now with 2.7i power!!!

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                  • SkiFree
                    R3VLimited
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 2766

                    #10
                    Originally posted by CarsSuck
                    any chance in getting these for an 89.6mm crank? They're almost as common as 2.8 cranks.

                    Yes, depending on a couple factors.

                    The three things to balance is the pin height, ring package, and the meat available above the top oil ring (along with valve reliefs). In a nut shell with a 89.6mm w/135mm rods you're crunching all these things closer together (as with any stroker piston).

                    digger - A stock short skirt 8.8 piston was used in conjunction with the mold.

                    Matt and AlphaE - Thanks guys.
                    ADAMS Autosport

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                    • Cabriolet
                      R3V OG
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 9620

                      #11
                      dang Andrew! if i didnt now have a s14 i would be placing an order right now.
                      Much wow
                      I hate 4 doors

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                      • SkiFree
                        R3VLimited
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 2766

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Cabriolet
                        dang Andrew! if i didnt now have a s14 i would be placing an order right now.
                        Eric, having an S14 around is not to be wasted! Lets get you an 02 to go with it.
                        ADAMS Autosport

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                        • deutschman
                          R3V Elite
                          • May 2008
                          • 5958

                          #13
                          Oh cool. Id like to use these in my next m20.
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                          "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."

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                          • digger
                            R3V Elite
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 5909

                            #14
                            Originally posted by CarsSuck
                            any chance in getting these for an 89.6mm crank? They're almost as common as 2.8 cranks.
                            should be able to get it to work

                            stock stack height is 37.5 mm crank throw +135 mm rod +34.2 mm piston comp height = 206.7 mm (deck height is 206.2mm so sits 0.5mm above deck)

                            with 44.8 mm throw you need a 26.9 mm compression height instead of stock 34.2 mm.

                            MM do this with a 138mm rod on their 86mm bore rally motors so the piston comp height is even lower again!. The bigger the piston the farther the valve relief is away from the edge and and ring grooves (with stock valves)

                            you can use smaller wrist pins, thinner rings and the pin into the oil ring.
                            Last edited by digger; 07-25-2013, 04:57 PM.
                            89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

                            new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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                            • Pocket Chant
                              E30 Addict
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 403

                              #15
                              Ugh. I want to build my M20 so badly. After I get new front tires I'm going to start collecting parts.


                              Oh, and it's Voila ;)
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