Anyone know if its the s52 or s54 z3m radiator that fits?

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  • bmwmech1
    E30 Enthusiast
    • Jun 2010
    • 1075

    #46
    Thanks Jonsku... well, the verdict is in on the Mishimoto radiator... It is a 3 row radiator. Corey has been alerted and I'm sure he will be speaking to Mishimoto again. I told him the salesrep needs to go out onto the assembly line and watch how they manufacture it, because it's definitely a 3 row core. You can clearly see the 3 individual rows if you look through the fins with a flashlight. So, with that being said, here are some pics...











    Dimensionally, it is the same width and height as the E36 M3 radiator I have been using for mockup. The core is obviously far thicker, as evidenced in the 3rd pic. It drops into the E30 with no mods, except for the plastic upper mount, which needs a slit cut into it to clear the thicker core.

    So that's it... IMO, this is a great option... the price is reasonable, the fit is perfect and the extra capacity is what we need for the M6x swaps...

    That is all...

    Garey
    Last edited by bmwmech1; 01-27-2012, 04:48 PM.


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    • JGood
      R3V OG
      • Jan 2004
      • 7959

      #47
      That thing's a monster! I'm starting to consider picking one up as well.

      What are you going to do about the rad hose? Looks like it's kinked a little, and you can't easily shorten it due to the flared ends.
      85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
      e30 restoration and V8 swap
      24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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      • CoreyZ
        Grease Monkey
        • Jan 2012
        • 384

        #48
        Holy fucking beefcake batman

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        • Jean
          Moderator
          • Aug 2006
          • 18228

          #49
          Very nice! Now if we can get a side by side photo of the mishimoto vs s54 z3m rad.

          Look at all the room VS inline 6 ....NOM NOM NOM
          Last edited by Jean; 01-27-2012, 12:02 PM.
          Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



          OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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          • bmwmech1
            E30 Enthusiast
            • Jun 2010
            • 1075

            #50
            Originally posted by JGood
            That thing's a monster! I'm starting to consider picking one up as well.

            What are you going to do about the rad hose? Looks like it's kinked a little, and you can't easily shorten it due to the flared ends.
            Actually, those are unmodified, E36 M3 radiator hoses that I, ahem, forced onto the M60 water pump nipples. If you know those hoses, you know they do not have a molded flare at the WP nipples, they're straight. I will cut the top one down about 3/4"at the pump nipple and the little kink should disappear... no problema. I will say that this radiator looks pretty badass in person. As thick as it looks in the pictures, it looks twice as beefy up close. I am not disappointed with this thing, in the least.

            Now, for all of you that decide to go this route, hit up Corey at Track One. I think I ordered this thing from him on Tuesday night and I had it in my hands today! Not that everyone's shipping will be that quick, but I was impressed. The price is well worth it, IMO... I mean, look at this thing, lol.

            Thanks again to Corey...

            Garey


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            • bmwmech1
              E30 Enthusiast
              • Jun 2010
              • 1075

              #51
              Quick update... here is the only modification necessary to install this radiator...







              2 small slits cut into the inverted round part of the plastic mount for the edge of the core to slide into... that's it...

              Garey


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              • JGood
                R3V OG
                • Jan 2004
                • 7959

                #52
                Originally posted by bmwmech1
                Actually, those are unmodified, E36 M3 radiator hoses that I, ahem, forced onto the M60 water pump nipples.

                Garey
                Holy crap, that's a hell of a stretch.

                I think I'm going to try to find room to run the remote oil filter just so I can use this radiator.

                Thanks for the writeup and pics.
                85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                e30 restoration and V8 swap
                24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                • bmwmech1
                  E30 Enthusiast
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 1075

                  #53
                  Originally posted by JGood
                  Holy crap, that's a hell of a stretch.

                  I think I'm going to try to find room to run the remote oil filter just so I can use this radiator.

                  Thanks for the writeup and pics.
                  Nah, it wasn't that bad, but those hoses do work for this application and they're spot on, as far as the molded bends and fitment, excluding the length disparity on the upper hose. You could always run the dual filter remote deal I'm running... more work and money, but no problems with room up top...

                  No sweat on the pics and such, I think it's a pretty killer setup and I don't anticipate any cooling issues...:D

                  Garey


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                  • Jonsku
                    E30 Addict
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 566

                    #54
                    That looks very good indeed!

                    Two questions and one comment:
                    -In the bottom you're using OEM rubber mounts?
                    -Oil filter?

                    -One thing that maybe should be considered, is actually bolting that radiator somehow to the chassis of the car. I mean, e.g. E28 and E30 radiators have the two screws (with rubber) holding the rad. in place.
                    Now as the radiator is much heavier, should it be bolted tight "just to be sure", as I'd imagine that kind of water volume jumping around in confined space will quickly break e.g. that upper mount.. ?
                    - E34 M5 (x 2) -
                    - E30 V8 Cabrio "Kylpyamme" -
                    - Alpina D10 Touring #33/94 -

                    +
                    - E46 318i Touring -
                    - Toyota Hiace 4wd -

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                    • JGood
                      R3V OG
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 7959

                      #55
                      Those upper mounts are pretty strong, I don't think any forces normally seen in a car would cause it to break, besides maybe a collision, in which case I'd rather the plastic mount break and save the radiator.. If you have that thing bolted down solidly, I'd be afraid of it breaking in a minor collision, leaving the car undrivable, or even cracking from chassis flex.
                      85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                      e30 restoration and V8 swap
                      24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                      • bmwmech1
                        E30 Enthusiast
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 1075

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Jonsku
                        That looks very good indeed!

                        Two questions and one comment:
                        -In the bottom you're using OEM rubber mounts?
                        -Oil filter?

                        -One thing that maybe should be considered, is actually bolting that radiator somehow to the chassis of the car. I mean, e.g. E28 and E30 radiators have the two screws (with rubber) holding the rad. in place.
                        Now as the radiator is much heavier, should it be bolted tight "just to be sure", as I'd imagine that kind of water volume jumping around in confined space will quickly break e.g. that upper mount.. ?
                        Both top and bottom mounts are OEM rubber "biscuits". I had thought about making some tabs to fit in the E36 "slots" at each top corner and bolt them to the core support, just for extra security. I tend to agree with Justin that the upper mount isn't going anywhere, but we'll see. As far as the oil filter goes, I'm running a remote, dual filter mount, a front mounted oil cooler, the X5 adapter plate with AN 10 bungs welded to it and all AN 10 braided steel line and fittings. The dual filter mount is bolted to a bracket welded to the inner frame rail on the passenger side, where the AC compressor would be. The filters are twin Bosch screw on type filters and they hang right next to the oil pan...

                        Garey


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                        • Jonsku
                          E30 Addict
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 566

                          #57
                          Remote oil filter saves a lot of hassle :)

                          Originally posted by bmwmech1
                          the X5 adapter plate
                          So I suppose you don't have PS .. ?
                          - E34 M5 (x 2) -
                          - E30 V8 Cabrio "Kylpyamme" -
                          - Alpina D10 Touring #33/94 -

                          +
                          - E46 318i Touring -
                          - Toyota Hiace 4wd -

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                          • bmwmech1
                            E30 Enthusiast
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 1075

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Jonsku
                            Remote oil filter saves a lot of hassle :)



                            So I suppose you don't have PS .. ?
                            Oh yes I do... and yes, minimum hassle is the theme of my build, lol!

                            Garey


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                            • Jonsku
                              E30 Addict
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 566

                              #59
                              Originally posted by bmwmech1
                              Oh yes I do... and yes, minimum hassle is the theme of my build, lol!

                              Garey

                              Hmm.. how have you solved the PS-pump rear support problem with the X5 bit? Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it so that the X5 bit doesn't have the support point - so I don't see the reason for using that as you can make the original mount "as good looking" while still maintaining the support point for the pump .. ?
                              - E34 M5 (x 2) -
                              - E30 V8 Cabrio "Kylpyamme" -
                              - Alpina D10 Touring #33/94 -

                              +
                              - E46 318i Touring -
                              - Toyota Hiace 4wd -

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                              • bmwmech1
                                E30 Enthusiast
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 1075

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Jonsku
                                Hmm.. how have you solved the PS-pump rear support problem with the X5 bit? Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it so that the X5 bit doesn't have the support point - so I don't see the reason for using that as you can make the original mount "as good looking" while still maintaining the support point for the pump .. ?
                                I'll get a picture...

                                Garey


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