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    #16
    Wait, you mean the 10% of people in the US that pay 78% of all income tax should have to pay more?

    Yeah, fuck the rich. They don't have any "skin in the game" as it is.
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      #17
      Funny I was JUST about to post something about this....


      My mom sent me this link. I will say up front that she is pretty far right. Is this site right wing biased? Probably. I am more interested in finding the actual quotes from those mentioned about the potential for VAT in the US...

      So is it possible? We already have red light cameras. It seems some are finding ways to get speed cameras in. Rolling speed vans. "Universal Healthcare". Now VAT? Seems pretty possible...

      I hope not. I thought we broke away from Europe to be different.

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        #18
        It's already been said but it's easier to tax than be responsible and make cuts. Most Americans have made cuts and now it's our Governments turn.
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          #19
          We need to go to a 1 page tax code period. No loop holes, 3 deductions and EVERYONE PAYS period

          Here's the way I see it

          10% FLAT for everyone that has income end of story, no matter if its 100mil in a year or 13k in welfare Govt Checks you pay 10 fucking percent of you income period individual or corporate dose not matter. That is to be split between the feds and the state in a appropriate manner. If you live in a city or municipality that has its own tax rate than so be it you have to pay that on top of things just like you do now.

          3 deductions, 1) 2k for head of household 2) 500 for each dependent 3) charitable donations.

          thats it everyone pays, no bitching about how fair it is, nothing everyone pays the same 10 cents on the dollar. No loop holes to get outta it, it will turn your tax return into 1/2 page form rather than 10's of complicated confusing forms.

          It will do away with the punitive business hampering tax system we have, allow entrepreneurs to start and grow business with out the govt killing them before they get off the ground. It will bring much of the lost industry rushing back to our shores and provide more jobs than we have people to fill in the process. It will lower most of us, marginal tax rates form close to 50% to about 20% or even less, this will leave more money in you pocket to save, buy stuff, invest and spend in general, all things that are good for the economy. When the economy is good, that means we all will be doing good and earning MORE money to be taxed at 10%. This coupled with the millions of people put back to work in the 1st couple of years, is even more income to be taxed at 10%. It will also give more insensitive to those sitting on their ass on welfare to get a job to have more money now that they have to pay taxes on that

          Lastly and the most important it will eliminate 90% of the main domestic weapon against the masses and political rivals of the Fed govt THE IRS.
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