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  • CincinnatiKid
    Mod Crazy
    • Nov 2007
    • 716

    #1

    Fuel cut out on long corners

    Alright after a track day this weekend I'm sick of this, one longish highspeed corner (60-70) and a gas tank between 1/4 and 1/2 a tank causes my engine to cut out from all the gas going to one side, not being picked up by the pump, does anybody have a remedy for this problem on the track?
    1990 S50 goodness.
  • xwill112x
    Θέλησα έναν τίτλο συνήθειας, απορροφώ για να είμ&#
    • Jan 2009
    • 4237

    #2
    fill your gas tank up more
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    • 36brua
      Mod Crazy
      • Feb 2008
      • 689

      #3
      Originally posted by CincinnatiKid
      Alright after a track day this weekend I'm sick of this, one longish highspeed corner (60-70) and a gas tank between 1/4 and 1/2 a tank causes my engine to cut out from all the gas going to one side, not being picked up by the pump, does anybody have a remedy for this problem on the track?
      search for jlevie post or pm him to find his write up to cure this fuel starvation ?. I think he posted here and on spec e30 forum
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      • team9
        Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 82

        #4
        ^ Here ya go

        Mark K
        1989 BMW 325i
        SCCA SEDIV TT Street Mod Champion 2011

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        • kronus
          R3V OG
          • Apr 2008
          • 13004

          #5
          Isn't the early model fuel tank more resistant to stuff like this? Try switching to a dual pump setup?
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          • Massive Lee
            R3V OG
            • Sep 2006
            • 6782

            #6
            anti-surge tank
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            • Jean
              Moderator
              • Aug 2006
              • 18228

              #7
              Originally posted by Massive Lee
              anti-surge tank
              yes, iirc ireland engineering makes one around fifty bucks.

              SKU - e30fuelacc $55

              http://store.nexternal.com/shared/St...&Count2=678658


              "E30's have fuel starvation problems when driven hard. Some cars begin to exibit this problem just below 1/2 tank. This can ruin your day and damage your engine. There are a number of complicated and/or expensive solutions. However, we have discovered a cheap and easy solution. By using a small (about a pint) accumulator which receives fuel from the return line and directs it to the fuel pump the starvation problem is eliminated. This system requires the car have 2 pump system with the in tank supply pump.
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              Last edited by Jean; 04-05-2010, 04:32 PM.
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              • Massive Lee
                R3V OG
                • Sep 2006
                • 6782

                #8
                I made some surge tanks for racers last year. They are about 1 litre. And I swear, we were able to run on an almost dry fuel tank. As long as there's fuel remaining in the surge tank, the car can go and go and go... The first pump fills up the surge tank, and the excess returns to the main tank. The second pump is fed from the surge tank. 1 litre of fuel is burnt every minute at full throttle. Meaning that the first pump can run dry for a full minute until the surge tank is empty...
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                • rThor432
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 3907

                  #9
                  ^^Impressive! Good info.

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                  • Massive Lee
                    R3V OG
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 6782

                    #10
                    BTW IE's accumulator is an... Audi off-the-shelf part.
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                    • Jean
                      Moderator
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 18228

                      #11
                      Lol....got a pn? I can see if I can get it cheaper locally :)
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                      • Massive Lee
                        R3V OG
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 6782

                        #12
                        That's a pretty old trick from 20 years ago. Basically one small cylinder with one inlet (from the fuel rail) and two outlets (one feeding the main pump, and one for excess fuel back to the tank). It doesn't work as well as a full size surgetank, but surely a good safety measure for most of us because the main pump is fed by the tank AND the fuel return.
                        Brake harder. Go faster. No shit.

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                        • CincinnatiKid
                          Mod Crazy
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 716

                          #13
                          Awesome info guys, I didn't know there were so many solutions.
                          1990 S50 goodness.

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                          • Joe318is
                            R3V OG
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 6451

                            #14
                            ive got a fuel accumulator that i never used. PM me

                            Also, i had this problem on a 318is. turned out that the filter screen fell off the pump, allowing it to move aorund in the tank. may want to check that.


                            Originally posted by vlad
                            Do you know anybody else who built that many bad ass E30s?

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                            • Massive Lee
                              R3V OG
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 6782

                              #15
                              Hey Joel, would mind posting a picture of the accumulator. I am curious to see to what car it belongs. Should be from a 1982-1990 Audi but not sure.
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