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  • bmw13fr
    Noobie
    • Apr 2005
    • 12

    #1

    problem with euro S50 swap

    hi,

    i would like to swap an euro S50B30 in my 88' 325i

    i bought the engine with gearbox

    but i heard that the speed signal is essential for the vanos
    the speedometer signal must be convert thanks to a device.

    have you already encountered this problem

    thxxx !
    project 325i 88 S50B30 EURO
    link
  • bmw13fr
    Noobie
    • Apr 2005
    • 12

    #2
    read this :



    KEMPOWER BMW M speed signal simulationelectronic division is a universal ABS

    We developed different BMW M speed signal simulation units

    The speed signal input of the original BMW E36 M3 and E34 M5 ECU comes from the original DASH unit, that has converted the speed signal coming from the rear axle sensor.

    If we left the original DASH unit out, the ECU misses the speed signal and goes in SECURITY

    APPLICATIONS

    For racing we prefer another DASH unit

    When we have transplanted a E36 M3 3.0 / 3.2 or E34 M5 3.6 / 3.8 engine in another BMW body

    We have the solutions :

    SPEED SIGNAL ADAPTOR WITH ORIGINAL REAR AXLE SENSOR

    order # E0142-BM-09014101 price 150,00 € ex VAT

    to be used on the E30 models using E30 speed sensor of rear axle with M3 E36 and M5 E34 engine without the need to use E36 or E34 speedometer, keeping E30 speedometer in function .

    also can be used on all E36 models without the use of original Tacho instrument cluster (for example race application)

    for all S50B30 - S52B32 - S38B36 - S38B38 engines/ECU's

    also other engine transplants in E30 (see list below)

    possibility to use this unit without original speedometer, but with rear axle sensor. THIS HAS TO BE SPECIFIED WHEN ORDERED



    thxxx
    Attached Files
    project 325i 88 S50B30 EURO
    link

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    • ian332isport
      Advanced Member
      • Feb 2004
      • 124

      #3
      Just use the speed signal coming out of the back of the E30 instruments. This is already converted by the E30 SI board and works fine on the Euro S50.

      Ian.

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      • tjhartge
        Member
        • Jun 2004
        • 86

        #4
        Originally posted by ian332isport
        Just use the speed signal coming out of the back of the E30 instruments. This is already converted by the E30 SI board and works fine on the Euro S50.

        Ian.
        The Master has spoken.......

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        • bmw13fr
          Noobie
          • Apr 2005
          • 12

          #5
          thanks you Ian !
          project 325i 88 S50B30 EURO
          link

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          • AMIR PG
            Noobie
            • Apr 2007
            • 4

            #6
            Originally posted by ian332isport
            Just use the speed signal coming out of the back of the E30 instruments. This is already converted by the E30 SI board and works fine on the Euro S50.

            Ian.
            If you mean the cluster from the E30, what if your runing a race car. with no OEM conections what do we do then? can we get rid off the signal from the DME by remapping it?

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            • AMIR PG
              Noobie
              • Apr 2007
              • 4

              #7
              Originally posted by bmw13fr
              read this :



              KEMPOWER BMW M speed signal simulationelectronic division is a universal ABS

              We developed different BMW M speed signal simulation units

              The speed signal input of the original BMW E36 M3 and E34 M5 ECU comes from the original DASH unit, that has converted the speed signal coming from the rear axle sensor.

              If we left the original DASH unit out, the ECU misses the speed signal and goes in SECURITY

              APPLICATIONS

              For racing we prefer another DASH unit

              When we have transplanted a E36 M3 3.0 / 3.2 or E34 M5 3.6 / 3.8 engine in another BMW body

              We have the solutions :

              SPEED SIGNAL ADAPTOR WITH ORIGINAL REAR AXLE SENSOR

              order # E0142-BM-09014101 price 150,00 € ex VAT

              to be used on the E30 models using E30 speed sensor of rear axle with M3 E36 and M5 E34 engine without the need to use E36 or E34 speedometer, keeping E30 speedometer in function .

              also can be used on all E36 models without the use of original Tacho instrument cluster (for example race application)

              for all S50B30 - S52B32 - S38B36 - S38B38 engines/ECU's

              also other engine transplants in E30 (see list below)

              possibility to use this unit without original speedometer, but with rear axle sensor. THIS HAS TO BE SPECIFIED WHEN ORDERED



              thxxx
              so you basicly conect the 2 wires coming out off the diff brown/black, brown/red to ure unit, then from there to the DME & it gets rid off the problem no more speedo issue?plug&play .. would it work if we dont have speedometer? what happens to the wier going in the speedometer?

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              • Michel.kh
                Noobie
                • Mar 2019
                • 4

                #8
                E36 s50b30 euro

                Hey guys,
                Im michel from lebanon!
                I have an e36 compact 318i m50 swapped!
                U removed the m50 and bought an s50b30 i installed the setup! But i dont know how to wire the speed sensor to make the vanos active! I habe the original dash!
                Can anyone help me?
                Regards

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                • pazi88
                  E30 Addict
                  • Sep 2015
                  • 584

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Michel.kh
                  Hey guys,
                  Im michel from lebanon!
                  I have an e36 compact 318i m50 swapped!
                  U removed the m50 and bought an s50b30 i installed the setup! But i dont know how to wire the speed sensor to make the vanos active! I habe the original dash!
                  Can anyone help me?
                  Regards
                  Run wire from instrument cluster vss output to ecu vss input. Simple as that. The speed is wrong, but at least it would have vss input. The ecu sw needs to be modified for 9 pulses per rotation from the original 48 pulses per rotation.

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                  • Michel.kh
                    Noobie
                    • Mar 2019
                    • 4

                    #10
                    But

                    but i have the original m3 dashboard!!
                    Can u please make it clear again?

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                    • Michel.kh
                      Noobie
                      • Mar 2019
                      • 4

                      #11
                      Speed signal

                      So which color coming from the diff should i wire? And should i wire it in the x20 connector white/black wire? Or another place? I have an original e36 m3 dashboard!
                      Help please

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