Because you can have a real m3 for that money.
Would You Pay Over $13K For This?
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IIRC, Vlad mentioned in the build thread that he purposely left the stock motor in there so the new owner could decide what powerplant to put into it, but he always built the car with the expectation that the motor would be swapped out. Not defending him, just adding missing info.
Also, not even taking the E30 M3 body conversion into account, a fresh paint job, suspension, and brakes with a super clean interior, etc... isn't cheap to replicate. Not saying that I would buy it for 13k, but it would make for a great shell for a motor swap without pissing off the s14 purist that someone 'ruined' a real E30 M3 by swapping out the S14.1991 Alpine 318i w/S52 swapComment
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.. It looks good, but with $13K you can buy one with a s14 or build a e30 with a s50/s52Comment
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With proper steel and paint? and bumpers and suspension? No unless you have a great inventory and network. Think of the front bumper skin alone is $1800 bucks these days and 5 lug suspension in E30 M3 is fetching 2K.
Then add wheels with the fans not throwing stars are 2K and say the metal work.
13k really is not a bad deal what so ever. Hell Vlad said he would leave option open to buyer to add any engine the buyer chooses and he would add that to the bill.
The rule has been changed to 16K roughly these days correct? Add say one S54 for another 6K and you have a very sharp Resto-Mod car that most wouldn't even ask history about it.
So that being said who purchased it?Comment
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I have done body work, and welding of panels. It is very hard to do right, and I know it is a lot of work. How ever for a few thousand more you can get a real e30 M3. Why would you buy a converted 3 series $13,000, even if it is very well done, and then spend another $5,000 on a s5- swap that lives up to the rest of the car. For $20,000 you can easily find a real M car with a swap already done.How is it not worth 13k ? Its been totally restored new oem panels where used,fresh paint,suspension ,brakes but yes this needs an engine but big deal spend another 3k and put an s52 in and have a badass fully restored car.I guess when people dont or cant do anything for themselves they have no clue what kind of time and labor goes into something like this.
It is worth $13,000, but a real car guy is going to want a real motor in a car like that. He would have an easier time selling it if he had put a worth while motor in it while he was doing all his other work. I think it is an incomplete car.sigpic
"The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."
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It is also a salvage title car. He rebuilt the m20 but added no fun stuff to it? Why did he put so much time and money into the rest of the car and then not even spend $500 on getting some head work and a 272 cam?sigpic
"The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."
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Ok, It was worth it to someone to warrant spending 13K Maybe they didn't want to pay M3 insurance but wanted the look and down the road performance.
Some purist might not wanted to muck up a real chassis to do a V8/V10 or some other swap.
Who knows, and why was a salvage title issued? Some are issued for the most minor things.Comment
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yeah A real m3 ready for restoration.Show me a real m3 fully restored for that price not to mention the first thing I would do to the real m3 would be to take the stock engine.So I think I would take the fake that 99.9% of population could never even tell and spend 3k or so and put a more powerful engine and have an amazing car, You could easily have an s5x in it for just over 15k.Last edited by crazyvwobie; 08-31-2011, 12:50 PM.Comment
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1. read.
2. buy a stamp.
3. anthrax.
4. ???????????
5. profit.Comment
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http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewi...id=10221616236 only 8k and real m3 and already has engine pulled.Comment
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http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewi...id=10221616236 only 8k and real m3 and already has engine pulled.
" 1990 E30 M3 Bought 5 years ago with blown motor. Engine is pulled needs rebuilt. No tears in leather and paint is in good condition"
Thats a bit vague and not sure where it says restored ? obviously you can buy an M3 under 13k but thats not the point We are talking about a car thats been restored.show me an e30 m3 in the same condition as the one we are talking about,its not going to happen.Comment
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Wait, so you're saying you can't find a fully restored e30 m3 for the same price as a completely restored 325e? Mind blown." 1990 E30 M3 Bought 5 years ago with blown motor. Engine is pulled needs rebuilt. No tears in leather and paint is in good condition"
Thats a bit vague and not sure where it says restored ? obviously you can buy an M3 under 13k but thats not the point We are talking about a car thats been restored.show me an e30 m3 in the same condition as the one we are talking about,its not going to happen.
I think if a swap was being done I would pick the $8k true m3 that just needs a motor put in vs the $13k restored 325e m3 clone that needs the m20 pulled and a new motor put in. But thats just me.
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