1991 318i M50 (San Diego)

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  • Josh1254
    E30 Addict
    • Sep 2013
    • 426

    #16
    This car has been misrepresented and it just sucks to see stuff like this happen.

    The only person that loses here is the customer because my services aren't free... He had to spend a decent sum of money in order to correct a lot of the issues that were not disclosed and there's still more to be done.
    I don't know either parties involved, but stating the car was misrepresented can only be said if the seller was aware of all the extra issues. Regardless, it still is unfortunate for the buyer. Hopefully hiding these issues was not intentional, but it often does happen.

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    • dude8383
      Forum Sponsor
      • Jan 2005
      • 10387

      #17
      You're absolutely right... I've only heard one side of the story but I'm doubtful the buyer would have a purchased this car sight unseen if all of these items were disclosed upfront.
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      • zer0_paint
        Banned
        • Jul 2014
        • 864

        #18
        like i've already stated with the buyer alot of the issues he pointed out i had no idea about, this car was in a shop for almost 6 months i only had it like a month before it went down for the swap and all i did was provide the parts needed to do the swap the rest of the chassis was how i bought it never really did anything to it, i wanted to do the motor and get it running before going threw the car and fixing all the little issues, but i ended up getting caught up on my other vert so when the car came back from the shop it went straight up for sale cause i didnt have the time for it..

        i've already talked to the buyer and said my sorries and told him i wasn't aware of almost 80% of what he was saying...

        but to be honest at the end of the day he got a rust free clean title m50 swapped vert for a good price, no matter the minor issues.. car is a great starting point for someone to have fun...

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        • Schnitzer318is
          R3VLimited
          • Jan 2008
          • 2057

          #19
          Not sure what the final price was... but at least he got it for a decent price. $3800 is not a bad number for a swapped vert that needs $3000-$4000 worth of work... clean "nothing needed" swapped cars are now going closer to $10k.

          Just an observation though... I think there have been much worse misrepresentations to $$$ asked ratios here and this buyer could have been much worse off. He should have gotten a PPI done at your shop or something since it seems he missed some fairly (for most e30 owners) obvious stuff.
          "A good memory for quotes combined with a poor memory for attribution can lead to a false sense of originality."
          -----------------------------------------
          91 318is Turbo Sold
          87 325 Daily driver Sold
          06 4.8is X5
          06 Mtec X3
          05 4.4i X5 Sold
          92 325ic Sold & Re-purchased
          90 325i Sold
          97 328is Sold
          01 323ci Sold
          92 325i Sold
          83 528e Totaled
          98 328i Sold
          93 325i Sold

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          • zer0_paint
            Banned
            • Jul 2014
            • 864

            #20
            CAR SOLD FOR $3,500, so i think that is beyond fair for a clean title, rust free chassis, with a m50 swap... and yes there are some things i should of looked at before selling and posting, but i did not have the time... and i really needed the room at my shop as well..

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            • Javier h
              E30 Enthusiast
              • Sep 2007
              • 1189

              #21
              Seriously

              Look at the wires sticking out near the firewall. It was clear that attention to detail was not present on this car and corners were cut (no pun).

              For the price, it was, was it was. It needed work and the seller was still tweaking it.

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              • zer0_paint
                Banned
                • Jul 2014
                • 864

                #22
                wires where fixed before shipped and i wasn't tweaking anything i never even got to drive the car let alone tweak with stuff..

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                • Schnitzer318is
                  R3VLimited
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 2057

                  #23
                  I think the OP and buyer got a square deal. $3500 is not bad for a swapped e30. Even if it needs a bunch of other work. Look into the labor and cost of parts for doing a swap...

                  I get why the buyer might be a tad miffed that extra work was needed to really enjoy the car... but I think that is to be expected of almost ANY $3500 E30... let alone a swapped one. Just my opinion though, this is the internets after all...
                  "A good memory for quotes combined with a poor memory for attribution can lead to a false sense of originality."
                  -----------------------------------------
                  91 318is Turbo Sold
                  87 325 Daily driver Sold
                  06 4.8is X5
                  06 Mtec X3
                  05 4.4i X5 Sold
                  92 325ic Sold & Re-purchased
                  90 325i Sold
                  97 328is Sold
                  01 323ci Sold
                  92 325i Sold
                  83 528e Totaled
                  98 328i Sold
                  93 325i Sold

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                  • pandaboo911
                    R3VLimited
                    • May 2010
                    • 2070

                    #24
                    1991 318i M50 (San Diego)

                    Well if you're buying a slammed m50 swapped late model vert for $3500, blown Rsms and a pinched power steering line doesn't sound that bad at all.

                    Also anyone buying a car that's lowered that much should be asking about the suspension and what parts were used to lower it, before buying the car. Did the buyer even look under the car? Pretty easy to see if the springs were cut or were actual lowering springs. Also the blown shocks shouldn't be a surprise either if you did a proper test drive.

                    $3500 was a good deal for that car.

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                    • dude8383
                      Forum Sponsor
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 10387

                      #25
                      This the owners first E30 so part of it was lack of knowledge...

                      Having a PPI is incredibly important but I'm located in NY and the car was in CA. I would have recommended a PPI prior to purchase of the vehicle and advise all of my customers to do the same whenever they do shop for cars out of state.

                      Originally posted by Schnitzer318is
                      I think the OP and buyer got a square deal. $3500 is not bad for a swapped e30. Even if it needs a bunch of other work. Look into the labor and cost of parts for doing a swap...

                      I get why the buyer might be a tad miffed that extra work was needed to really enjoy the car... but I think that is to be expected of almost ANY $3500 E30... let alone a swapped one. Just my opinion though, this is the internets after all...
                      I'm well aware haha, I've built a handful of swapped cars and $3500 is only enough to get you halfway into the build. I just feel like there was a lot left on the table that the buyer didn't know about.
                      Last edited by dude8383; 06-12-2015, 06:39 PM.
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                      • ethurtee
                        E30 Mastermind
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 1989

                        #26
                        I don't think i've ever heard of a cheaper price for a running swapped car. It's hard to blame the seller, imho. Buyer didn't get cheated for the price. You gotta do your due dilligence when buying a swapped 25yo car, as is.

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                        • Schnitzer318is
                          R3VLimited
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 2057

                          #27
                          Originally posted by dude8383
                          This the owners first E30 so part of it was lack of knowledge...

                          Having a PPI is incredibly important but I'm located in NY and the car was in CA. I would have recommended a PPI prior to purchase of the vehicle and advise all of my customers to do the same whenever they do shop for cars out of state.
                          Oh, I get that. And support your recommendation completely.

                          It just sounded as if you were getting on the seller for misrepresenting the car even though it was sold for a fairly reasonable price. Buyer should know his purchase or consult someone who does. At least he didn't get ripped off.

                          My buddy bought a car off r3v that was fairly grossly misrepresented but payed over twice as much as is the case here. We flew to NY to pick it up and didn't really have much of a choice other than to buy it and go through it when we got home to TX. It made the trip... but was not the best road trip experience. It's a nice car now... but cost him a lot to get it there, plus us putting in tons of wrench time.
                          "A good memory for quotes combined with a poor memory for attribution can lead to a false sense of originality."
                          -----------------------------------------
                          91 318is Turbo Sold
                          87 325 Daily driver Sold
                          06 4.8is X5
                          06 Mtec X3
                          05 4.4i X5 Sold
                          92 325ic Sold & Re-purchased
                          90 325i Sold
                          97 328is Sold
                          01 323ci Sold
                          92 325i Sold
                          83 528e Totaled
                          98 328i Sold
                          93 325i Sold

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                          • zer0_paint
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2014
                            • 864

                            #28
                            Ok so a couple days ago I receive a letter in the mail saying MY E30 vert is sitting in NY impound, and if I would like to pay the fees and remove the car.. I have already sent release of liability sheet behind the title to the dmv, right after car was sold... So I guess new owner did some illegal parking and now I'm stuck with the end result of fines, paperwork, etc for a car that is in another state.. Wtf do I do??

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                            • noypi2
                              E30 Addict
                              • Jun 2014
                              • 442

                              #29
                              DO NOTHING. You are not the owner anymore.

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                              • zer0_paint
                                Banned
                                • Jul 2014
                                • 864

                                #30
                                Do I just submit a letter to the dmv telling them that I no longer own this vehicle and that the new owner didn't put it in his name?

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