German Engineering Suspension GB

[einstein57]

noahp45 i would like the best springs rates for my 87 vert with camber plates

"Best" is all relative. I personally really like a 350f and a #500r but that's cause I'm only interested in a comfortable ride with reduced body roll in the front when it comes to verts. Picking the "best" springs is like picking the "best" bed. You really have to try it to see what you like.

[spiDmang]

1. bloodshot-e30
2. johnwoo-Coilovers, dust boots, and camber plates $455 (450f 650r)
3. xoneslosentrax
4. iwantspeed
5. MR 325 (450f/650r w/camber plates)
6. giantkeeper (w/ dust boots and camber plates 450f 650r - stiffer if available)
7. noahp45
8. mach schnell
9. mtlbloodshot (450f 650r coilovers, dust boots, eurothane uppers and camber plates)
10. Luis325 (race rates)
11. Cronopoulos
12. EThirty318i (450f 650r coilovers)
13. jasonsnoddy (everything but keyless entry, 450f 650r)
14. Puma (will be convinced by the goat)
15. nebulous123 (Coilovers 450f 650r, dust boots, and camber plates)
16. robert23 (450f 650r)
17. der affe (500f 700r in a 6" spring)
18. 6gen91 (stiffest setup )
19. djjerme (450f 650r - possibly camber plates if the one's I got won't work..)
20. e46s54dr (450f/650r + dust boot) edit: if stiffer rates are available, I'll take those.
21. Brian D (300f 500r 6" springs + dust boots)
22. Den_k321 ( 450f/650r )
23. e30gentry no modification needed (450f 650r) dust boots and camber plates
24. RagtopE30 (450f/650r or 500f/700r if available) camber plates, dust boots, rsm's
25. IronmanE30 (pending discussion at the CarBeQue)
26. howdyhoayman (don't know what spring rates yet but will get stiff af ones with camber plates)
27. pputkowski - Coilovers (300f/500r), dust boots, and camber plates
28. trackjunkie21- Coilovers (450f/650r)
29. Robiniscool
30. mhuynh- Coilovers (450f/650r)
31. Kwill22- coilovers (450f/650r) camber plates dust boots
32. Sonj91- coilovers (450f/650r)
33. dave.a.cote - coilovers (450f/650r) camber plates dust boots
34. spidmang - Coilovers (450f/650r)

[mtlbloodshot]

Seems like everyone is interested in the 450f and 650r

[IRUNEDM]

would (450f/650r) spring rates be good for a s52 swapped coupe?

[noahp45]

"Best" is all relative. I personally really like a 350f and a #500r but that's cause I'm only interested in a comfortable ride with reduced body roll in the front when it comes to verts. Picking the "best" springs is like picking the "best" bed. You really have to try it to see what you like.

ok i want the best springs for 80% daily driving and 20% canyon riding.

[grippymonkey]

^ It's depends on your butt. Some people complain about the most basic sort of firm rates on E30's because they are used to toasted suspension parts. If you are mostly daily driving and like to rip it sometimes then rates close to H&R Race would be just fine. I mean people use those to track 24/7 and do great. They are also pretty comfy on the street. I personally will be shooting for rates closer to the 450/650 next because it seems to be a great balance for something I can really use at the track.... yet still get by on the streets.

[MR 325]

I'm definitely on the fence about the 450/650 combo being too stiff since I'm coming from IE3 springs. My car is mainly a street car but I don't want to regret not buying stiff enough springs!

Nigel, what are your thoughts?

[mo diesil]

put me down aswell for the (450f/650r)

[artfunk007]

Add me for coilovers and camber plates

[Fusion]

Couple questions I couldn't find an answer to:
How are they installed without having to cut/weld front strut?
Will I be able to use my 51mm Koni shocks with these?
International shipping?

[einstein57]

would (450f/650r) spring rates be good for a s52 swapped coupe?

I'm definitely on the fence about the 450/650 combo being too stiff since I'm coming from IE3 springs. My car is mainly a street car but I don't want to regret not buying stiff enough springs!

Nigel, what are your thoughts?

I drove phreshkids swapped car and hes running 450f and 650r springs and it was not all that bad. Coming from h&r races and bilsteins i was expecting an uncomfortable ride. I'll post up some install pics soon.

[IRUNEDM]

Ok you talked me into it haha

1. bloodshot-e30
2. johnwoo-Coilovers, dust boots, and camber plates $455 (450f 650r)
3. xoneslosentrax
4. iwantspeed
5. MR 325 (450f/650r w/camber plates)
6. giantkeeper (w/ dust boots and camber plates 450f 650r - stiffer if available)
7. noahp45
8. mach schnell
9. mtlbloodshot (450f 650r coilovers, dust boots, eurothane uppers and camber plates)
10. Luis325 (race rates)
11. Cronopoulos
12. EThirty318i (450f 650r coilovers)
13. jasonsnoddy (everything but keyless entry, 450f 650r)
14. Puma (will be convinced by the goat)
15. nebulous123 (Coilovers 450f 650r, dust boots, and camber plates)
16. robert23 (450f 650r)
17. der affe (500f 700r in a 6" spring)
18. 6gen91 (stiffest setup )
19. djjerme (450f 650r - possibly camber plates if the one's I got won't work..)
20. e46s54dr (450f/650r + dust boot) edit: if stiffer rates are available, I'll take those.
21. Brian D (300f 500r 6" springs + dust boots)
22. Den_k321 ( 450f/650r )
23. e30gentry no modification needed (450f 650r) dust boots and camber plates
24. RagtopE30 (450f/650r or 500f/700r if available) camber plates, dust boots, rsm's
25. IronmanE30 (pending discussion at the CarBeQue)
26. howdyhoayman (don't know what spring rates yet but will get stiff af ones with camber plates)
27. pputkowski - Coilovers (300f/500r), dust boots, and camber plates
28. trackjunkie21- Coilovers (450f/650r)
29. Robiniscool
30. mhuynh- Coilovers (450f/650r)
31. Kwill22- coilovers (450f/650r) camber plates dust boots
32. Sonj91- coilovers (450f/650r)
33. dave.a.cote - coilovers (450f/650r) camber plates dust boots
34. spidmang - Coilovers (450f/650r)
35. IRUNEDM - coilovers (450f/650r) camber plates dust boots

[MR 325]

I drove phreshkids swapped car and hes running 450f and 650r springs and it was not all that bad. Coming from h&r races and bilsteins i was expecting an uncomfortable ride. I'll post up some install pics soon.

Thanks for the reply! Wanted to talk to you yesterday about it but that never happened.

This stuff will be for my turbo car BTW.

[einstein57]

Hay guys. I don't want you guys to feel that 450f/650r is the only option available. If there is enough interest we can also do a 350f/600r. That way people who are just looking for something a little stiffer then races to go a tad lower then them can have a more street oriented setup then the 450f/650r.

[phreshkid]

Not that it matters, but i'm running 450f/650r and that's with bilstein sports. I'm sure the ride would get better when paired with uprated shocks/strut inserts. But honestly, I like how my car rides. It does everything I want and more and everyone who has been in it agrees. Am I disappointed at the spring rate? Hell no. It makes sense given the added weight up front from the engine swap and the amount of lowness that I can potentially go now thanks to your prototype camber plates.

Tracking my car is in the near future but I really need to talk to you about my plan nigel. BBK or 5 lug. I need your input oh wise and experienced one.