APEX | 17" 4-Lug ARC-8 Pre Group-Buy Discussion Thread

[Clemons]

Me too. A set of these would make my build so much easier.

[PDWebb]

Just signed up, thank you!

[ian e30 318is]

We're going to launch another deal page for the concave 4x100 wheels. Splitting the two allows us to move the concave project forward much smoother because of the site's technical limitations. That 8" deal is straight forward, while the concave deal has a lot of variables.

Because we're still voting on offsets and other details, we can properly poll people and come to a conclusion on what wheel to produce by creating it's own feeler phase.

We've committed to have the concave deal live by Tuesday of next week.

That is great news! Glad to hear this is moving forward.

[Reub_e30]

Yes!

[PaintPro21]

The official 17x8" ET20 deal is live. A new thread will be created for it. You can sign-up with the link below. I'll post more info about that deal in it's new thread, and we'll add more content to the deal page in the coming days.

https://www.groupbuyparts.com/index.php/bring-back-the-apex-4x100-arc-8.html

Come on Apex, do the right thing.

We're going to launch another deal page for the concave 4x100 wheels. Splitting the two allows us to move the concave project forward much smoother because of the site's technical limitations. That 8" deal is straight forward, while the concave deal has a lot of variables.

Because we're still voting on offsets and other details, we can properly poll people and come to a conclusion on what wheel to produce by creating it's own feeler phase.

We've committed to have the concave deal live by Tuesday of next week.

[mrcheezle19]

Come on Apex, do the right thing.

[Beej '86 325es]

Awesome- looking forward to having two sets of dedicated street and track wheels!


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[f4tj0n]

Man, after going to Bimmerfest last weekend, I was really hoping that the concave would come out because my buddies and I thought they looked dope on the e46s out there. My interest is gone if you're not making the concave wheel.

[Reub_e30]

I am willing to wait for a concave option if y'all are sure it will be made. I don't want to be waiting on just a "maybe", but I do understand how business works and that lots of folks talk but then don't bite the gun when it's available

[mrcheezle19]

The interest for original flat faces looked to be about 4-6 people. Where as the majority of this thread was people interested in some sort of concave design.

[ian e30 318is]

I feel you had more than enough support for cancave wheels. Interest wasn't lost, people just died down as we waited for updates. This sucks because while the flat faces are very functional for fitting a proper size tire, I feel they are terribly boring. I think if you did of concave wheels they would for sure sell out like the 17x8 flat faces do. :(

I agree...I think there was more interest for a 17x8.5/9 than the 17x8 original. My interest is pretty low at this point. 17x8 et25 with flat faces are pretty boring like you said. Even a push out of the offset would make them look a little better, but it sounds like it's all said and done at this point.

[mrcheezle19]

I feel you had more than enough support for cancave wheels. Interest wasn't lost, people just died down as we waited for updates. This sucks because while the flat faces are very functional for fitting a proper size tire, I feel they are terribly boring. I think if you did of concave wheels they would for sure sell out like the 17x8 flat faces do. :(

[FredK]

Thanks for updating us, and for doing all of the modeling!

[FLG]

Perfect. Please keep us updated with a link to the group buy feeler for the 17x8" this is where it started and I'm sure we'll have enough people to get it going. That size is perfect for a nice size tire and for me, more importantly, will clear my angle kit and not hit my control arm at full lock. Thank you!

As for color, im literally down for whatever the majority vote would be lol

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[PaintPro21]

We recently modeled aftermarket brakes into CAD and checked clearances.

Test results are as follows:

UUC's 11.75" kit would require a 4mm spacer to have at least 2-3mm of clearance to the spokes with a concave 17x8.5" ET20 wheel. Lee's Massive 280x22mm Dynapro kit would require a 5mm spacer. Lee's 300x22mm Superlite kit would require a 13.5mm spacer.

With a 17x9" ET25 wheel those same kits would require a 3mm, 4mm, and 12.5mm spacer respectively, in order to have 2-3mm of spoke clearance.

You can take those spacer numbers and determine final spacer-free offsets, which is basically 17x8.5" ET15 and 17x9" ET20 respectively. I believe 17x9" ET20 would still hit the strut, so it would need an even lower offset similar to the ones mentioned previously.

Both wheels can be produced in offsets that would clear BBK's but they're aggressive. This thread started as an offer to reproduce 17x8" wheels and it expanded from there. Recent posts are requesting a 17x10" wheel.

In today's staff meeting, we've determined this project has become too fragmented, and it's lost it's sense of direction. We've committed to moving forward with an official Group Buy feeler for only the 17x8" ET25 wheel while we separately continue to determine what concave wheel to produce if any. That deal will be live next week. The only variable that will be voted on by the community will be what color to produce the wheel in.

When demand for concave wheels is less fragmented and there's a clear solution we'll proceed with a formal group buy production run.