MarkD chip

[Fidhle007]

I'm with you on having a month long special! Consider this, computer companies have been able to double the processing speed every few months. Chip manufacturers have constantly been on the cutting edge of technology and we the consumer benefit. When chips are updated, we benefit from lower costs as line efficiency increases. Therefore, if a Mark D chip is no longer at the cutting edge, or if competition increases, we need to lower the price to move product or improve product to remain at the forefront of technology to justify price. So, Mark D, if your product has not improved in the last 6 months, give us all a price break.

Yeah, because there is SO MUCH innovation for your 25 year old shitbox...

[BeLzEbUb58]

I know what goes in to making a chip, i've written them for Hondas and studied them. I don't know what he's using to write the program for the chips, but there's programs like Crome and Uberdata that guys make and give out for free.

Anyway, once the program is written, spend say $300 on dyno time to give a good tune to an M20 engine which maybe he has, or maybe he asked a friend to let him borrow it, $40-$100 on a chip burner depending how well it looks ($40 is for the kind with no casing), $5 a piece or so for an PROM chip and let's just assume he already has a laptop or if he bought one to do chips, let's assume he uses it for more than just making chips, therefore not part of the money in to the chip.

Total invested: $400 and $5 per new chip.

Profit is after two chips were sold.

Correct me if i'm wrong.

When a chip is $250 and a clone is $50, i rather just buy the clone and risk it being a JC or Dinan copy and like i said, for maybe $100-$125 shipped, i'd gladly give the guy money for the thing to know it's legit and will do what those dyno graphs show.

Obviously the people are making profit copying the chips and that's all Mark has to do now that he has the program written, if they're making profit from $50 shipped, Mark would be making more profit than them for $125 shipped.

Hell, maybe just have a month long special for that price to see what happens, i'd certainly buy one insted of a used or cloned one because that's the only way i'd buy one of these chips.

I'm with you on having a month long special! Consider this, computer companies have been able to double the processing speed every few months. Chip manufacturers have constantly been on the cutting edge of technology and we the consumer benefit. When chips are updated, we benefit from lower costs as line efficiency increases. Therefore, if a Mark D chip is no longer at the cutting edge, or if competition increases, we need to lower the price to move product or improve product to remain at the forefront of technology to justify price. So, Mark D, if your product has not improved in the last 6 months, give us all a price break.

[cobraken]

Just got off the phone with Mark, seems like a pleasant and knowledgeable guy. I will be ordering a chip in the next few months after all of my adult/parenting responsibilities are resolved.

[rcko]

Installed the 19lb 93 octane chip and noticed an improved throtle response at mid rpm range from 3k to 4.5k. I have driven the same car with a 153 DME, stock injectors with a BMP chip switched and then with a stock 173 DME. There was a definite difference in throtle. Now using the Mark DSylva chip and there is definetily a much felt improvement to mid rpm range throtle response even over the BMP chip.

It took about 20-30minute of driving to get the DME adjusted to the 19lb and the chip. The issue was idle but once adjusted the car has been idling and running great. I dont have any dyno sheet or numbers but the improvement is there. Specifically in the mid range throtle response, and no thats is not a "placebo" effect.

The best $/hp ratio of any performance buy I have made for the ole E30.

[dj2xrated]

haha daz what im talking about.. dude. im broke. and i have my markd Chip on the list of upgrades to do(just waiting for mail). lol just put down 1 dollor for every minute you spent thinking up dumb lame ass excuses. by the end of (this already dead thread) you will have about 3 brand new chips, 2 dicks to stick on your 1 little ass whole. stop bitching.

[MarkD]

Chips cost $5 and a chip is a chip, if you don't believe me, check out moates.net or any other similar place selling PROM chips. Shipping can be done in a small envelope and not cost much more than $1.

When is the last time you checked what it cost to ship by USPS Priority Post with a tracking number?

All he's doing is the same thing the guy on eBay is doing, writing a program to a chip, he does have the research and design though, but he's still making huge profits selling for that price, the guy on eBay is also making big profits selling for $35-$50 or he wouldn't be doing it.

Does the eBay guy spend thousands on equipment and countless hours on dis-assembly, research and development? Did you consider that is why the eBay seller can sell for $50 ?

Writing a chip is easier than burning a CD, quicker too, basically in my eyes, this guy's band made a CD and is selling copies for $250, a little far fetched, but it's the closest thing i could think of to compare since i have experience with both.

Well get going on making BMW chips then! Seriously, I wonder if you realise that people have to make a living doing whatever they do. Do you work for a charity for free? Get your head out of your @ss. The world does not work on 5% profit margins and copying other people's work. (unless you are in China)

And that's all I have to say to you. I didn't respond for many months as for some reason I couldn't log in since March 3 but now that's fixed.

MarkD

[MarkD]

$189 is starting to get more like it, but still too high.

There's no topic like this in GD or OT. :P



Haha.

It occured to me, but i didn't care when i saw the pricetag of his chip (and all the other ones)...it's either that or a used one, i don't personally see much difference, the money doesn't get to him either way.

I'm done debating it though.

Hey dickweed, if BMW chips are so easy to make and you already know how to tune motors, why don't you develop one? I'm sure that for $300 and 1 day's work you'll have a chip that's better than mine!

You and people like you are the reason that I won't be developing many new products for BMW's. The price of my chips is more than reasonable, but yet you are such a cheap b@stard that you have been continuously saying my products are overpriced. Who else has a working MAF conversion for the M20? I have one for the M20b32 (Metric Mechanic motor) and can complete the one for the m20b25 in a few weeks, but I won't release it till my copy protection is also ready because of people like you.


MarkD

[mjg23bmw]

tried that before and it didn't work for some reason. it does now. something might have been wrong with my computer or something

[Mystikal]

https://www.dsylva-tech.ca

Jay

[mjg23bmw]

Dead thread but I had to add this...

I know what goes in to making a chip, i've written them for Hondas and studied them. I don't know what he's using to write the program for the chips, but there's programs like Crome and Uberdata that guys make and give out for free.

Anyway, once the program is written, spend say $300 on dyno time to give a good tune to an M20 engine which maybe he has, or maybe he asked a friend to let him borrow it, $40-$100 on a chip burner depending how well it looks ($40 is for the kind with no casing), $5 a piece or so for an PROM chip and let's just assume he already has a laptop or if he bought one to do chips, let's assume he uses it for more than just making chips, therefore not part of the money in to the chip.

Total invested: $400 and $5 per new chip.

Profit is after two chips were sold.

Correct me if i'm wrong.

When a chip is $250 and a clone is $50, i rather just buy the clone and risk it being a JC or Dinan copy and like i said, for maybe $100-$125 shipped, i'd gladly give the guy money for the thing to know it's legit and will do what those dyno graphs show.

Obviously the people are making profit copying the chips and that's all Mark has to do now that he has the program written, if they're making profit from $50 shipped, Mark would be making more profit than them for $125 shipped.

Hell, maybe just have a month long special for that price to see what happens, i'd certainly buy one insted of a used or cloned one because that's the only way i'd buy one of these chips.

This thread is dead but still needs to be cleaned up. I found this thread very useful in researching which chip to get; it just took twice as long to go thru all the that the :loco: dude wrote. All I kept seeing was Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah......Basically it comes down to this: If Mark D lowers the price of his chip then so would the people/companies that make fake chips. So STFU and stop cluttering up useful information. Mark's chip is priced correctly according to the market IHMO. Now on with my research: need to find out where to buy an AUTHENTIC Mark D chip. Would Mr. Mark D, care to tell me how to do so?

[Fidhle007]

I know I've asked this before, but just to clarify: Is there a seperate chip for a 19lb injector/m30AFM setup, or is it the same as the 19lb injector one listed on Mark's site? I've already ordered the injectors and I have access to an AFM too, I'm just wondering I need a different chip...


Mods: Can you do a little housekeeping on this thread please? Also, how about banning this panty-wearing, cum-guzzling, cheap-ass goat-fucker? If he can't afford a chip, he shouldn't buy it but the I fail to see who the "we" he kept refering is to when he kept saying "we'dbe more likely to buy..." I really hate stupid people who won't shut up.

Rant over, you guys have may delete this section of my post...

[808BMW]

He's put the time and effort to make his own chip, and he puts his name behind it and backs his work, that's why it's priced (reasonably with the competition)

If you buy a chip on ebay and you blow your motor, the seller won't give a rats ass. You'll probably never get in touch with him, and you'll be left with a broken car.


I don't know about you, but I rebuilt my motor at 15 before I even had my license. I've put way too much time and effort into my car, to risk blowing it to save $150. If you choose to risk it, go ahead. Lots of people have had good results, whether it be placebo or not, and I don't hear of too many blown motors but its your choice.

[O 16581 72452 5]

TMS chip: $249.95 & $199.00

http://http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html/subcategory_detail.asp?modelcode=E30&subcat_id=74

Bavarian Autosport: $249.95
http://http://www.bavauto.com/shop.asp 1988 BMW 325i
Racing Dynamics: $249.00

http://http://www.sfxperformance.com/parts/EDY2009010101.htm

Dinan: $199.00

http://http://www.dinancars.com/Series.asp?Series=14&Chassis=12

MarkD: $229.00 previously $189.00

http://http://www.dsylva-tech.ca/

So as you can clearly see - Mark is not selling a product that is more expensive than the other options out there. At one point, his chip was cheaper than the other alternatives and that's when you should have bought yours. There was a group buy that happened a while ago - too bad you missed it. Now you see proof of your error in assuming that he's taking advantage of the BMW community. If you cannot afford a chip then don't buy one. If it never occurred to you that buying and selling stolen or copied products is morally wrong, then learn it now. Now this is a product review forum, not a bash session. Take it to General Discussion or OT.

$189 is starting to get more like it, but still too high.

There's no topic like this in GD or OT. :P

If it never occurred to you that buying and selling stolen or copied products is morally wrong, then learn it now.

Haha.

It occured to me, but i didn't care when i saw the pricetag of his chip (and all the other ones)...it's either that or a used one, i don't personally see much difference, the money doesn't get to him either way.

I'm done debating it though.

[bimmer2288]

TMS chip: $249.95 & $199.00

http://http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html/subcategory_detail.asp?modelcode=E30&subcat_id=74

Bavarian Autosport: $249.95
http://http://www.bavauto.com/shop.asp 1988 BMW 325i
Racing Dynamics: $249.00

http://http://www.sfxperformance.com/parts/EDY2009010101.htm

Dinan: $199.00

http://http://www.dinancars.com/Series.asp?Series=14&Chassis=12

MarkD: $229.00 previously $189.00

http://http://www.dsylva-tech.ca/

So as you can clearly see - Mark is not selling a product that is more expensive than the other options out there. At one point, his chip was cheaper than the other alternatives and that's when you should have bought yours. There was a group buy that happened a while ago - too bad you missed it. Now you see proof of your error in assuming that he's taking advantage of the BMW community. If you cannot afford a chip then don't buy one. If it never occurred to you that buying and selling stolen or copied products is morally wrong, then learn it now. Now this is a product review forum, not a bash session. Take it to General Discussion or OT.

[O 16581 72452 5]

So your basically saying your a douche that condones buying stolen work, not to mention from a guy whos done way more for the e30 community than you ever will? Wow, I knew you were wierd, but now you just suck.

Condones? Condones means i go against and i'm all about buying stolen overpriced work, that's why the majority of people download MP3s and steal copies of Windows. ;)

If the work is that good, people will buy it and some people are buying it for the outrageous price, i for one won't and i'm not the only one that feels this way about it, i'm just the only one to speak up. I've discussed the chips and copies of them with people on AIM, some people on this forum, i won't say their names.

I'm still awaiting Mark's reply in defense of his chip's price...

If he can provide any reason as to why he charges what he does for his chip, i might be respectful and buy one.