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    #16
    E30 R. Brace & floor plate diff. Mount install

    the install is relatively easy and straight forward - person should be somewhat mechanically inclined and of lucid consciousness
    firstly clear the work bench and your mind
    requires drilling bolt holes and assembly spanner work/ all component parts are pre-drilled - task app hours = 2
    new hardware is supplied
    final results from users have been of excellent
    YES the stuff is made in the USA and of low volume production and is costly = but in the end you get what you pay for

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      #17
      Originally posted by jjmtools View Post
      the install is relatively easy and straight forward - person should be somewhat mechanically inclined and of lucid consciousness
      firstly clear the work bench and your mind
      requires drilling bolt holes and assembly spanner work/ all component parts are pre-drilled - task app hours = 2
      new hardware is supplied
      final results from users have been of excellent
      YES the stuff is made in the USA and of low volume production and is costly = but in the end you get what you pay for
      Weird I got the same kind of email answer from DCColegrove at evolutionzen.com Any regular people install one yet?

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        #18
        Originally posted by Dillinger View Post
        Weird I got the same kind of email answer from DCColegrove at evolutionzen.com Any regular people install one yet?
        Get out of here Danny. We left your stupid advertisement banner, you don't need to make new names and "bump" your review thread.

        1987 PRO-3 car /1990 325is (2.7i Concours)

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          #19
          Originally posted by Jparkr View Post
          Get out of here Danny. We left your stupid advertisement banner, you don't need to make new names and "bump" your review thread.
          You are the 2nd person to tell me that.

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            #20
            So it's mason now, not Zen?
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              #21
              Originally posted by evil_twin View Post
              So it's mason now, not Zen?
              no, mason has been making them all along, back when they were SBI bars for $125, then IE bars, then EBAY bars, then Zen bars. Zen added the trunk floor part and the lower x brace and CA brace. Mason makes all of them though
              My E30 v1.0 | v2.0 | v3.0 | My E28 |My E34 | My feedback

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                #22
                Originally posted by Eric View Post
                no, mason has been making them all along, back when they were SBI bars for $125, then IE bars, then EBAY bars, then Zen bars. Zen added the trunk floor part and the lower x brace and CA brace. Mason makes all of them though
                Correct

                To reiterate and clarify:

                John Mason is a fabricator, makes all kinds of stuff for many of your favorite tuners etc and is one of the absolute very best at what he does.

                Zen or Evolution Zen, AKA Entwicklung Zen, AKA BMW Zen Performance, AKA Zen Racing is a BMW Chassis Builder and R&D Company that designs and tests stuff with Mason among others.

                Neither John Mason (Mason Engineering) nor Daniel Colegrove (Evolution Zen) are really people people and are best left out in the shop away from the general public.

                As to the install I'm sure that someone will eventually chime in somewhere.
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                  #23
                  I want to go meet both of these guys in person. I bet I could make 'em people persons.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Liam View Post

                    Neither John Mason (Mason Engineering) nor Daniel Colegrove (Evolution Zen) are really people people and are best left out in the shop away from the general public.
                    how do you know them Liam?
                    My E30 v1.0 | v2.0 | v3.0 | My E28 |My E34 | My feedback

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Eric View Post
                      how do you know them Liam?

                      I think Liam is John Mason's second cousin.

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                        #26
                        Install

                        I"m making arrangements at the local spastic out patient clinic
                        to have them perform installs on a test basis
                        I think they can do it just fine although I have seen self proclaimed SIMI VALLEY BMW master mechanics that were unable to operate an umbrella without permanent damage

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by jjmtools View Post
                          I"m making arrangements at the local spastic out patient clinic
                          to have them perform installs on a test basis
                          I think they can do it just fine although I have seen self proclaimed SIMI VALLEY BMW master mechanics that were unable to operate an umbrella without permanent damage
                          Are you for real? I'm interested in a product that I will have to shell out big bucks for and this is the kind of goofy answers I get from who I am assuming is one of the makers?

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Farbin Kaiber View Post
                            I think Liam is John Mason's second cousin.
                            John Mason's second cousin is Daniel Colegrove.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Dillinger View Post
                              Are you for real? I'm interested in a product that I will have to shell out big bucks for and this is the kind of goofy answers I get from who I am assuming is one of the makers?
                              Ok ask yourself these.

                              Do you track the car?

                              if yes
                              Is it just auto-x?
                              if no
                              Are you trying to compete in a track event?

                              if yes
                              Are you building a race car?
                              if no
                              you don't need this brace.
                              if yes
                              Be aware that this brace will add nothing if you already have a full cage

                              Those don't apply to you?
                              Ask yourself these.
                              Are you building a nice car?
                              if yes
                              Are you an attention whore?
                              if yes or no
                              Do you love eye candy?
                              If yes.
                              You want this brace.

                              1987 PRO-3 car /1990 325is (2.7i Concours)

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Jparkr View Post
                                Ok ask yourself these.

                                Do you track the car?

                                if yes
                                Is it just auto-x?
                                if no
                                Are you trying to compete in a track event?

                                if yes
                                Are you building a race car?
                                if no
                                you don't need this brace.
                                if yes
                                Be aware that this brace will add nothing if you already have a full cage

                                Those don't apply to you?
                                Ask yourself these.
                                Are you building a nice car?
                                if yes
                                Are you an attention whore?
                                if yes or no
                                Do you love eye candy?
                                If yes.
                                You want this brace.
                                May I kindly request you do such a write up for every product. This is exactly what I need. Im not joking.
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