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    #31
    Originally posted by zm blue devil View Post
    may i kindly request you do such a write up for every product. This is exactly what i need. Im not joking.
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      #32
      Hmmm okay.

      "Rear Shock Tower Braces:

      I was a naysayer on rear shock braces until late 1997, my thinking was that the shocks would not transmit the kind of forces that the brace seemed to be designed to mitigate

      I had to concede..."
      http://www.evolutionzen.com/chassis-compliance.html

      As to front braces you can also see Gustave Stroes.



      I've been told some of his math was off but the theory is pretty much right on (even if not "complete" it's what we knew at the time he wrote it).







      Hope this doesn't get me in trouble.
      Last edited by Liam; 04-05-2009, 08:34 PM. Reason: Hope this doesn't get me in trouble
      I'm Not Right in the Head | Random Rants and other Nonsense1st Order Logic Failure: Association fallacy, this type of fallacy can be expressed as (∃xS : φ(x)) → (∀xS : φ(x)), meaning "if there exists any x in the set S so that a property φ is true for x, then for all x in S the property φ must be true".

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        #33
        Got all my answers I emailed evolution zen directly and the guy was pretty cool sent me instructions and photos that is all I wanted but it would have been nice to hear from some impartial people.
        Last edited by Dillinger; 04-29-2009, 10:28 AM. Reason: new info

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          #34
          dude go fix the pictures in your old threads.

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            #35
            Its too bad he is banned. There is so much that he could provide for us. Like the Zen bars and the tech info. Maybe someone could unban him.
            Originally posted by Nicademus
            My car beats off to that car. :bow:

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              #36
              Originally posted by Kingb View Post
              Its too bad he is banned. There is so much that he could provide for us. Like the Zen bars and the tech info. Maybe someone could unban him.
              He never provided any info. he just beat around the bush and acted like a douche. No one is going to un-ban him. besides, what kind of questions could you have? it's a strut brace. it reinforces shit. End of story.

              He still sells all his shit here:

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                #37
                Originally posted by CorvallisBMW View Post
                He never provided any info. he just beat around the bush and acted like a douche. No one is going to un-ban him. besides, what kind of questions could you have? it's a strut brace. it reinforces shit. End of story.

                He still sells all his shit here:
                http://www.evolutionzen.com/index.html
                What? he provided all the info anyone does all I see searching in here is him trying to be as candid as possible while doing the r and d which is way more than most would. More than 1/2 of everyone in here acted like a douche all in those posts.

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                  #38
                  Ay fuck you buddy.


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                    #39
                    If this rear brace was SM legal I'd probably jump on it.
                    Need parts now? Need them cheap? steve@blunttech.com
                    Chief Sales Officer, Midwest Division—Blunt Tech Industries

                    www.gutenparts.com
                    One stop shopping for NEW, USED and EURO PARTS!

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by z31maniac View Post
                      If this rear brace was SM legal I'd probably jump on it.
                      Question I am not familliar with SM is it not legal because of a "no triangulation" thing or are strut or shock tower braces just illegal?

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                        #41
                        You got it. Only top to top or bottom to bottom, no triangulation.

                        So I suspect if one were inclined to run a "normal" rear brace, and then a "butt strut" type brace together that would be legal, but not as effective. I'd need to double check the SCCA rule book to find out exactly what is and isn't legal as far as chassis bracing.

                        Either way, I know my car could still lose 150ish pounds, maybe more, under SM rules but I want the thing to still be streetable.

                        I eventually plan on a bolt-in 4 pt roll bar and rear brace, I need to read up on the X-brace as well. With the sway bars and spring rates I'll be running, I'll need the chassis as stiff as I can get it.
                        Need parts now? Need them cheap? steve@blunttech.com
                        Chief Sales Officer, Midwest Division—Blunt Tech Industries

                        www.gutenparts.com
                        One stop shopping for NEW, USED and EURO PARTS!

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                          #42
                          They make a regular brace too as i recal, without the triangulation. But, that doesnt get you as much i guess

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                            #43
                            Found the real deal on these here http://entwicklung30.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=44

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Dillinger View Post
                              You're retarded. That's just their website, which has been linked several times already in this thread.

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                                #45
                                You're all retarded, but don't let that stop you.
                                I'm Not Right in the Head | Random Rants and other Nonsense1st Order Logic Failure: Association fallacy, this type of fallacy can be expressed as (∃xS : φ(x)) → (∀xS : φ(x)), meaning "if there exists any x in the set S so that a property φ is true for x, then for all x in S the property φ must be true".

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