:17x10 17x8.5 ESM 002R OLD SKOOL MESH NOW IN STOCK:

[blamecanada]

being as BBS just delcared bankruptcy, i don't imagine there is lots of corporate "fat" to be cut.

There is a lot more to this debate but i dont want to shit up the thread.

Fair enough - but my main point is that shitty wheels should be priced accordingly and the ones sold by the OP are not.

: )

[Stephen]

Both of these - yes.

BBS and other wheel companies have massively inflated prices - what I mean is that perhaps Chinese manufacturers making cheap knock offs that look (but don't weigh) the same will inspire them to cut some of the corporate fat to price at a more realistic level.

ESM wheels are like the worst of both worlds, inflated prices and poor quality.

When the 17x8.5s start coming down to 150/wheel (for example) then we can say things like:

"Hey they look just as good and who cares if I break a set at the track? I can afford to buy several sets per year at that price".

being as BBS just delcared bankruptcy, i don't imagine there is lots of corporate "fat" to be cut.

There is a lot more to this debate but i dont want to shit up the thread.

[blamecanada]

What are the weights?
The difference between BBS and China wheels isn't looks.

....by copying their designs?

Both of these - yes.

BBS and other wheel companies have massively inflated prices - what I mean is that perhaps Chinese manufacturers making cheap knock offs that look (but don't weigh) the same will inspire them to cut some of the corporate fat to price at a more realistic level.

ESM wheels are like the worst of both worlds, inflated prices and poor quality.

When the 17x8.5s start coming down to 150/wheel (for example) then we can say things like:

"Hey they look just as good and who cares if I break a set at the track? I can afford to buy several sets per year at that price".

[Stephen]

I've never had a problem with China wheels, especially when they're showing BBS and other companies it isn't that hard to make wheels that look good.

....by copying their designs?

[E30SPDFRK]

What are the weights?

I've never had a problem with China wheels, especially when they're showing BBS and other companies it isn't that hard to make wheels that look good.

But usually for China wheels you should be paying China prices...not the prices listed for these on the website...

My .02

The cars in the pictures are pretty but they are definitely not race cars.

The difference between BBS and China wheels isn't looks.

[blamecanada]

I've never had a problem with China wheels, especially when they're showing BBS and other companies it isn't that hard to make wheels that look good.

But usually for China wheels you should be paying China prices...not the prices listed for these on the website...

My .02

The cars in the pictures are pretty but they are definitely not race cars.

[ak-]

The black car above has rolled fenders... That might also be why you think there looks like some extra room... But in either case the fronts DO NOT stick out 15mm further out than the back wheels...
Thanks,

ok, 14mm.

[Fidhle007]

How's the brake clearance? ;-)

[widebodye30]

When I get some more pixs from our customers i will gladly post them up;)

BTW We have sold many of these already in all bolt patterns:)

[DG films]

pictures of those two cars actually racing or gtfo

+1 and direct pics of the front...or we think you didn't post fronts for a reason

[accident]

pictures of those two cars actually racing or gtfo

[240zs30]

Ary,

I had really high hopes for the square setup since I want a 235 on all 4. I did not ask for the pics to start a debate. I know the front on the E30's are slightly wider. While I can always add spacers to the rear setup I can't mill material from the front wheel to get them under the fenders. \Can you please post a pic from the front of a car so I can see how much they stick out? Did no one else buy these and have them mounted yet?

[widebodye30]

Will you be selling those center caps on the 16 inch version also?

No the old design will be discontinued and changed over to the new design...

[e30 gangsta]

Will you be selling those center caps on the 16 inch version also?

[panose30]

The black car above has rolled fenders... That might also be why you think there looks like some extra room... But in either case the fronts DO NOT stick out 15mm further out than the back wheels...
Thanks,

post some front pics man!!i want to see because i already have 1cm spacer 2 clearance the brembo brakes