e30 Sport-Race brake Massive brake kits - Summer sale.

[Massive Lee]

Hi everyone. It's been a while since I posted on R3V. Letting you know that due to a weak US dollar and strong Canadian currency. The price of the Sport and Race installation kits have risen from $450 to $500 (Race) and $550 to $550 (Sport). Installation kits include anodized hats, brackets, all fasteners, custom DOT compliant brakelines, and as many stickers as you want. That was for the BAD news.

The GOOD news is that I will keep the old price until the end of July. I currently have 6 Race kits left, available in Silver, dull grey, and black, and only one silver Sport kit.

Wilwood parts (Rotors, calipers and pads) can be bought separetely from your usual supplier. I will temporarely stopping distributing Wilwood components due to long shipping delays from the warehouse.

The difference between a Sport and Race kit is the hat sepcs, but mostly the different thickness in rotor. Sport kit offers more clearance and will fit more wheels. Several HPDEs 30s installed the Sport kit and have been delighted by the braking power and constence of response of the brakes. The Race kit has thicker rotors and therefore should be for racers.

Both kits will fit certain 15" wheels and many more 16". Remember that 300m rotors is huge. The Race kit will fit Team Dynamics Pro-Race 1 (first generation. If you have any doubts about fitment, please download the profiles from the website.





e30 M3 Rally kits also available. Fit Kosei K1 15" wheels with 300mm x 32mm rotors and 6 pots calipers.

[tonytony]

I think you made a typO with the sport kit, it says 550 to 550, do you mean 500 to 550? I'd probably splurge if i didnt' wreck my car.

[Van Westervelt]

damn i want the e30 m3 kit front and back, i just dont have 3k. Well, i did. :(

[Massive Lee]

I think you made a typO with the sport kit, it says 550 to 550, do you mean 500 to 550? I'd probably splurge if i didnt' wreck my car.

Yup you are right. There is a $50 increase on both kits (10% hike to overcome the 12% drop of the US currency). I will hold the hike until the end of July.

[Mike325]

Where can we get the calipers and other parts nessasary to do a whole front brake swap? Do you know the general price of all the parts combined?

I have a 25mm m/c and want to keep the stock rear brakes with some nice street pads on them. Would the street kit enable me to keep the stock rear brake system and not have any problems with front/rear bias?

Thanks.

[Massive Lee]

Independently of the MC, if you have stock rear brakes, then you should pick front calipers with 1.38" pistons to keep your brake bias intact.

Calipers are about $145 each
Rotors are $45 (sport) to $75 (race)
Pads are about $85

I can sell those parts, or you can buy them yourself.

Lee

[Mike325]

Thanks Lee.:D

[Massive Lee]

Hi guys.

Just letting you know that Massive products will most likely be represented in the US by Euro Depot from New Hampshire. They will supply the Wilwood parts and Massive kits. They only need a bit of persuasion before they invest. You can contact the owner, Joel Van Patten, for your 3, 5 and 6 series brake requirements. If Joel knows there is a demand, he will jump in. :D he is a great guy and only need to make sure there si not too much risk. He also supply used quality parts for BMWs. :pimp:

http://www.theeurodepot.com/

[Vedubin01]

how is that going to effect the cost on the kits?

[Massive Lee]

It will end up being cheaper and more practical for buyers. The official retail prices will stay the same on my website, as an indicative value. But I will sell kits to distributors at wholesale prices at good discount, which will allow them to make profit on the installation kits. Distributors allow me to produce kits on a greater scale, in return, kits cost less to manufacture and reflect on wholesale prices, which benefits everyone. Being Wilwood retailers, distributors will make more profit selling the Wilwood parts included in the kits, as well as maintenance parts (rotors, pads and brake fluid).

Let's add that selling Massive/Wilwood kits will yeld a mucher higher profit than retailing Brembo kits. I was told that the profit on a Brembo kit is about $100 something. That's not much. Massive kits will yeld at least double to triple that amount, for kits that are also cheaper to sell. Also, cashflow wise, Massive will sell the installation kits, so retailers can mobilize money only on those installation kits, and order Wilwood parts when needs arize. As with any other brand, thye retailer must buy everything ahead. That will offer the retailer the opportunity to have more kits in stock and offer 48 hour delivery. At the end, it is better for the end buyer. Hopefully, on the long run, there will not be any price war between retailers, but they can opt to improve their offer by adding free parts like free fluid, or free shipping.

I wish that this new network will allow me to concentrate on new kits and bring to the market the dozen of drafts I already have: regular e30 and Z3 rear kits, e24, e28, e34 13" front kits, 14" kits for e36s and e46s, etc. All drafted kits with existing prototypes, available nowhere else in the world, but waiting for an infusion of cashflow to become a reality.

[Vedubin01]

its sounds like a win win for all. But I might add it might not be wise to let people know what the profit margin is on your kits from wholesale to retail. It might turn some off knowing there is that much built in the kit.

Ps, Im close to picking one of these kits up!

[Fidhle007]

This is r3v, everyone will now want the kit at wholesale prices because we think we are special. :D

I'm very close to the Euro Depot and my shop has done some business with them I think, I guess I'll have to start hounding them for an industry discount...

[Massive Lee]

Everyone knows retail price, and everyone knows that a retailer must make some profit. This is not a big secret. Making 10 or 20% profit for a retailer is not far fetched, especially when the norm should be 50%.

If I were selling parts that 100 other persons already can supply, then I would worry. Then knowing that there is a limited number of suppliers for such kits, I doubt anyone, even from R3V will have the guts to start bargaining. They may try, but they won't have an argument.

[Fidhle007]

Oh, they will try. Believe you me, they will try.

Pity Panty-by-Numbers isn't still around, his insight would make for some comical if frustrating reading. He didn't really understand the whole R&D thing...

Of course you have to make a profit margin, I would be highly suspect if you didn't. I have a lot of respect for what you have done: found a product that was needed and produced a high quality example at an attainable cost.

[Massive Lee]

Believe me. Until I mass produce those parts and can sell 100s of them, I will still work for only a few $ per hour. I would be richer working at McDonald's flipping hamburgers. The amount of time needed for the development and client support is huge.

Now for an eye candy. Here are some shots of the rear 2002/e21 kit. 11.75" x 0,81" rotors and 4 pots calipers. There is the optional parking brake bracket installed, but the spot caliper is not yet bolted on. Racers won't need the parking brake. This 2002 has been converted to rear coil-over.

Let's not forget that as usual, all installation kits can be purchased separately from the Wilwood components. No need to spend all at once. Take advantage of this Summer Sale or pay more later.