streetknight BAD TRANSACTION

[laocoholic]

BAD TRANSACTION. Heres the deal. I have an e36 that im dropping an m50 from an e34. I needed to know about the difference between the pans and what i needed to do to make it fit the e36. You guys seem to be doing the opposite of what i need done.

So "streetknight" pm's me about my oil pan. He needed my e34 oil pan and parts and i need his e36 parts but not the pan. i already have the pan i need for my swap, but i needed his pickup tube, dipstick, and baffle.

We agree that he would buy my pan and parts. We also agree that he would send me the parts i need. Remember all i need is the pickup tube, dipstick, and baffle. I mail him all his parts and have yet to recieve my parts. Ive pmed him a couple times the past week, but he hasnt checked them. His last login was Yesterday at 9:24 pm.

He has totally renegged on his part. I sold him the pan and parts for 130 shipped. I honestly think he got an awesome deal since shipping cost me 20 bucks.

I just want my parts. I hope he reads this or some that knows him reads this. I would give him the benefit of the doubt if he would just send me my parts.

[Apex381]

streetknight is trying to rip me off

Some of you may remember that about 3 weeks ago I bought a set of Koni's in rough cosmetic but working condition from another member - Rcko
I was talked into bilstein sports after that by my friend - ASUBimmer
so I offered them for trade in the for sale section.

A member by the name of Streetknight said he would give me 100 dollars + his bilstein sport fronts for the set of konis.

I shipped them out and now he is saying that I sold him M3 shocks and so he cant install them. This is not possible because they came off of an 88 325is. Also he claims the threads are "jacked up". The shocks do not look pretty but my photos in the ad clearly showed that. When I shipped them out the threads on all 4 shocks were fine. ASUbimmer and Rcko can attest that the shocks were not screwed up other than the worn paint jobs.

the part numers for the shocks are
Front - 8641 1210sport
Rear- 26 1196 sport

if you look up the part numbers here http://www.koni-na.com/cat_search.cf...=37&submit.y=6 you will we they list as BMW 9/88-91 3 Series - E30 318i,325i shocks

I cannot offer him his money back on shocks that he has damaged during incorrect installation. In addition he still owes me the other half of the deal. He needs to send me the front Bilsteins OR 100 dollars to cover the 200 dollar purchase price of those koni's.

here is the thread by rcko selling them http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=89784

here is my for sale thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=90556

[asubimmer]

Yeah I saw the shocks before they were sent out and the threads were deff fine. It could have been that they got messed up in shipping even though mr knight wanted the cheapest shipping possible w/out insurance. But it would be pretty hard to screw up threads of a shock durring shipping. I DEFF think that knight crossthreaded them when he was trying to install them.

[Apex381]

Here is his pm to me describing the problems and asking for his money back

"2 things about these shocks you sent me. i brought them in the box to put them on. 1 thing is that on 1 of them the thread was all jacked up i had to re thread it. 2 is that they are not e30 325 shocks they are m3 shocks the external threaded ring could not even catch to allow them in.so if you want them back your going to have to pay me to shipp them and i want my 100 also im not going to ship them first i cant trust you dude. you knew about the bad shock thread you could see that and you did not mention it. i also took my front end apart to put them in and to find out that they wont work, and when i ran the parts # it came up as m3 front struts. lmk what you want to do."

[streetknight]

dude i had to rethread them at work because 1 of them was screwed up. that its that i had not installed them i had them in the box from when i got them in the mailbox i opened them and partially to them out to see them and put them back i was too busy to take a look at them. if you want to nit pick they also did not come with any nuts for the shocks wonder why. in the pic they looked great but if you repost the pic you might be able to see the thread were they were all eaten out. also i had bought brand new nuts from the parts store i had to run to to match them up.

as for me trying to rip you off i told you i would send them back if you pay for s/h and pay me back my 100. oh and i did not choose the s/h method he did. we had agreed 100 + each of us ships individualy. that was the deal. i dont have the shocks here at home i left them at work. ill take the part # and post it. my car is a 7/87 325. i have bilstein sports up front with h&r i bought. what you choose to do is up to you. think what you want i have no reason fight you or your online friends.


sam b.

[PeaveyBassist]

What nuts did you buy? Tell us the size and thread pitch.

Will

[Rigmaster]

Those struts/shocks will fit in any E30 except early 318i/325e (like 84-85 only) with the smaller strut tubes. You will need to use the non-bilstein strut collar nuts to get them to fit.

I went thru the exact thing when I tried to install brand new Konis (exact same part numbers IIRC) in my '87 325is. If you look up the strut collar nuts on realoem or ETK, there is 1 part number that says "M-technic" suspension- those are for the Bilstein OEM "Sport" suspension, and they only seem to work with Bilsteins. You need the plain ole collar nuts- like for Boge struts- then the Koni's will drop right in.


No need to turn this into a problem, when it seems there is no problem. If the threads on one of the struts were "jacked up", it sounds like you got them straightened out by rethreading- should be no big deal.


Can't we all just get along? ;)

Bret.

[rcko]

I received a PM from Apex regarding this post and the subject Konis. He has asked to vouch for the condition of the shocks. I can only vouch for how these were shipped to Apex. I was not aware of any issues with the threads and these came off an '88 325is.

I spoke to the PO owner of my car (from which the Konis in questions were used, '88 325is) and he stated these were installed with no issues and he did not recall there being an issue with any of the threads... For what is worth he used the Konis with the stock OEM 325is springs. The reason he took them out was to run whats on my car now, a H&R Cup Kit.

Given there was surface rust on the threads, I could see cleaning the threads up with a wire brush and then use a tap with fluid to clean up the threads.

Regardless, as far as could tell, without installing them myself, these shocks were in working order when I shipped them out. They needed some cleaning up to remove the surface rust and maybe a bit of paint but thats about it.

Here are the pics that I had originally posted...

[Apex381]

oh and i did not choose the s/h method he did. we had agreed 100 + each of us ships individualy. that was the deal. i dont have the shocks here at home i left them at work. ill take the part # and post it. my car is a 7/87 325. i have bilstein sports up front with h&r i bought. what you choose to do is up to you. think what you want i have no reason fight you or your online friends.


sam b.

As for fighting me and my online friends you came onto me and accused me of duping you without even allowing me to help you or make it right. I have been through way too much crap on selling things on ebay and getting shafted by selling things online to not say anything.

Right now I want to help you get these shocks working and complete the deal.

[Apex381]

Those struts/shocks will fit in any E30 except early 318i/325e (like 84-85 only) with the smaller strut tubes. You will need to use the non-bilstein strut collar nuts to get them to fit.

I went thru the exact thing when I tried to install brand new Konis (exact same part numbers IIRC) in my '87 325is. If you look up the strut collar nuts on realoem or ETK, there is 1 part number that says "M-technic" suspension- those are for the Bilstein OEM "Sport" suspension, and they only seem to work with Bilsteins. You need the plain ole collar nuts- like for Boge struts- then the Koni's will drop right in.


No need to turn this into a problem, when it seems there is no problem. If the threads on one of the struts were "jacked up", it sounds like you got them straightened out by rethreading- should be no big deal.


Can't we all just get along? ;)

Bret.

Amen, sounds like he just needs some of those collars, and all will be good

[streetknight]

look at the center of the threads one side they are fine on the other they are close together. picture says 1000 words. i could see it clearly. the tap for it is a 14x1.5mm im thankfull one of the older techs had a huge matco master tap and dye set. because mines only goes to 12x1.5mm. but what ever i fixed it and i did not crossthread it.

but oh well. i tried to keep it between us i pmed you yeah it was somewhat me being a asshole but i was frustrated i had been working all day and at the end of the day i had plan on putting on the konis and after i had rethread them i had to find out they would not work, was a slap in the face. so i vent out at you but thru pm. your the one starting a thread instead of trying to resolve this privately. if anything im not the one that is getting there reputation draged thru the shitter. i admit i over reacted but would you not?

now to resolve this ill put it out in the open. your going to have to wait im going to look up where i can find these if i dont come up with any thing in the next few days ill give you the option of 1 i reshipping the shocks at your expence and you returning my 100. 2 you wait for me to go the the local pull and save in a few weeks( i dont know when ill be up there again). on a side note i would rather send back the shocks after this deal i made with you i have other important things im doing i just sent my m50 to the machine shop last thrus. so i wont lie moneys tight. i will see what i can do.

as a man i have keeped my word i told you when we made a deal 2 weeks ago that it was not till last sat, i would put them in. because i could only bring in my car on sat when i work, after teh work day ends its shop policy.its going to be atleast another 2weeks before i can bring my car back in. i dont have a spring compressor at home and as i told you this is my dd. so as a man ill let you know now im not going to keep posting in this thread any more. its up to you to make a choise on what you want to do. as i stated i have no problem with whatever choise you make.i have bills like everyone else. by this friday ill have a 600-700 machine shop bill that i have to take care of before anything else. so what ever your choise you make ill pm you with the answer. have a nice day

sam b.

[asubimmer]

sam...

"look at the center of the threads one side they are fine on the other they are close together. picture says 1000 words. i could see it clearly. the tap for it is a 14x1.5mm im thankfull one of the older techs had a huge matco master tap and dye set. because mines only goes to 12x1.5mm. but what ever i fixed it and i did not crossthread it."
those pics deff don't show anything other than dirt and slight rust on the threads.

"but oh well. i tried to keep it between us i pmed you yeah it was somewhat me being a asshole but i was frustrated i had been working all day and at the end of the day i had plan on putting on the konis and after i had rethread them i had to find out they would not work, was a slap in the face. so i vent out at you but thru pm. your the one starting a thread instead of trying to resolve this privately. if anything im not the one that is getting there reputation draged thru the shitter. i admit i over reacted but would you not?"
Keeping it to PM wouldn't have figured out the "prob" you were having of trying to use the incorrect strut collar nut. Or the wrong nut for the top of the struts either.

"now to resolve this ill put it out in the open. your going to have to wait im going to look up where i can find these if i dont come up with any thing in the next few days ill give you the option of 1 i reshipping the shocks at your expence and you returning my 100. 2 you wait for me to go the the local pull and save in a few weeks( i dont know when ill be up there again). on a side note i would rather send back the shocks after this deal i made with you i have other important things im doing i just sent my m50 to the machine shop last thrus. so i wont lie moneys tight. i will see what i can do."
I really don't think you realize how thin the ice is that you are on legaly. You had a contract and you haven't given Beau the bilstein shocks yet. I really doubt you would love to take off work in FL to come to court in NC to be ordered by a judge to go through on your part of the deal. Call up Koni and get the collar nuts.

"as a man i have keeped my word i told you when we made a deal 2 weeks ago that it was not till last sat, i would put them in. because i could only bring in my car on sat when i work, after teh work day ends its shop policy.its going to be atleast another 2weeks before i can bring my car back in. i dont have a spring compressor at home and as i told you this is my dd. so as a man ill let you know now im not going to keep posting in this thread any more. its up to you to make a choise on what you want to do. as i stated i have no problem with whatever choise you make.i have bills like everyone else. by this friday ill have a 600-700 machine shop bill that i have to take care of before anything else. so what ever your choise you make ill pm you with the answer. have a nice day"
If money was tight you should not have made a contract to trade/buy parts. We all have bills here so cry about your 600-700 bill at the machine shop.


You are making this into a huge deal when nothing is really wrong other than you haven't shipped out Beau's bilsteins yet. The threads are fixed now after they were messed up by incorrect installation. And now you know that you need the koni strut collar nut. I have a pretty big problem with you telling Beau that he knew that the shocks were stripped and was couldn't be trusted when there are quite a few people that saw them before they were shipped both times and they were fine. Also your lies about them being m3 shocks, even though it wouldn't matter if they were b/c they would still work fine, is just a feeble attempt to add credibility to your scam. I'm glad Beau kept the koni #'s to post up so we would all know how full of BS you are.

[Apex381]

He has now started a dispute on paypal over the shocks. he's saying that the desription doesnt match because I didnt supply him with the collars.
As you can see It was never part of the deal for me to supply him with everything he needs to install those shocks. Its clear he's spent too much money at the machine shop and cant afford to buy collars do he's trying to get his money back from me. There is nothing wrong with the shocks other than him not having the correct shock collars, which he can get from most u-pulls or any dealership. Its not my responsiblity to hold his hand and buy all his parts for him.

Streetknight

you owe me 100 dollars or those bilsteins

[Apex381]

Problem is resolved and both parties are satisfied. No bad intent on his part just frustrated when the shocks didnt install smoothly.