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    Lifter Tap - Perhaps a fix?

    Alright, I've had some bad lifter tap. I've been running 10w-40 amsoil in my car. My engine is an m52 with ~170k miles now. Whenever I run my car hard I'll get lifter tap, and it's just been getting worse. From a few times running it hard, to just driving it on the highway at around 3k rpms. I decided to try a couple of things and try to solve this lifter tap situation without having to replace the lifters. I added an extra quart of oil to see if maybe I was just getting air bubbles in my lifters. It didn't solve the problem, so I put a bit of ATF in my engine, to help clean up some of that gunk. It helped a bit, but the lifter tap would still come back. People were telling me that I should run a thicker weight engine oil (15w-50). I just don't like the idea knowing that I would pretty much be running the same weight engine oil as desiel cars...

    So today I ran an engine flush. I put Amsoil Engine Flush in my car. The directions say to drain some out, and fill whatever was drained out back with how much of the engine flush fluid you need. I didn't drain any out. The directions then state to run the car at high idle for about 20-30mins. I ran the car at 1500rpms for 20mins. Pulled the car back into the garage, jacked it up and drained my engine oil. The oil was VERY thin coming out since the flushing fluid was in it and because the engine oil was hot. I completely drained the oil, replaced the filter, and added 9 quarts of Amsoil 10w-40. Checked the dip stick, and went out for a drive.

    I drove the car hard. Trying to drive it as hard as I could pretty much with the space that I had to work with. No lifter tick. :) yet. I'm going to be gone for the weekend so when I get back I will drive the car again and keep updating this post until I finally find a fix for my lifter tick without having to replace the lifters.

    Thanks for letting me waste your time :)
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    #2
    i run 20w50 in all my 24v engines. factory fill at bmw

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      #3
      9 quarts?
      Originally posted by Gruelius
      and i do not know what bugg brakes are.

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        #4
        9 quarts is way too much. 7 quarts should be max. Maybe 7.5 if you track.

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          #5
          Should do an engine flush then fill it up with Moble 1 oil, use 15-50W. I heard Seafoam was suppose to do good also. Add half the can to clean oil and run it until your next change. GL

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            #6
            Originally posted by kencopperwheat View Post
            9 quarts?
            Yah, I thought it was supposed to be 7-7.5quarts, but when I go to check my dipstick it's no where on it. 8 quarts it's at the bottom mark.
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              #7
              Originally posted by Dominic49 View Post
              i run 20w50 in all my 24v engines. factory fill at bmw
              Idonno why, but that just seems way too thick. I know there's a few people running thing, but I thought the fluid they use was 5w-30.
              I got a fender roller now! LMK if you need me to roll your fenders or want to rent the tool from me locally.

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                #8
                Ok, heres the problem. You may have made them quiet. But they may still be very out of spec. My lifters sounded "fine" but when I re-did my head the lifters were completely fucked. Valves were not bleeding out. etc...

                When I put the micrometer on them the piston was just compressing into the housing.

                I would just man up and replace them. I would much rather have new lifters then have to worry about roasting a valve.
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                  #9
                  You are correct, but I am planning on rebuilding the motor when I go turrrrrbbbboooooo! lol.
                  I got a fender roller now! LMK if you need me to roll your fenders or want to rent the tool from me locally.

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                    #10
                    How are you guys running 7quarts? What dip stick do you have in there?
                    I got a fender roller now! LMK if you need me to roll your fenders or want to rent the tool from me locally.

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                      #11
                      None of the 50 weight oils I've seen really remove the ticking. Agip 10w60 and Castrol TWS seem to do the trick though.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by evil_twin View Post
                        You are correct, but I am planning on rebuilding the motor when I go turrrrrbbbboooooo! lol.
                        Why worry about the ticking then if you plan on rebuilding it?
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by evil_twin View Post
                          How are you guys running 7quarts? What dip stick do you have in there?
                          7 quarts, e34 dipstick and dipstick tube

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by evil_twin View Post
                            Idonno why, but that just seems way too thick. I know there's a few people running thing, but I thought the fluid they use was 5w-30.
                            Make sure your dipstick is all the way in, I made the same mistake. the o-ring should be at the bottom of that hole.

                            7.5 quarts max.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by tonytony View Post
                              7 quarts, e34 dipstick and dipstick tube
                              That's what I am running in my m52. I don't know why it would be 2quarts more than yours.

                              Originally posted by SamE30e View Post
                              Make sure your dipstick is all the way in, I made the same mistake. the o-ring should be at the bottom of that hole.

                              7.5 quarts max.
                              My dipstick is all the way down. I only have a problem with the tube flopping all over the place not being bolted down.
                              I got a fender roller now! LMK if you need me to roll your fenders or want to rent the tool from me locally.

                              Paypal: vdang5@gmail.com

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                              703.435.1375

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