M20 starter has 3 terminals, s50 starter has 4

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  • Lof8
    R3VLimited
    • Oct 2006
    • 2827

    #1

    M20 starter has 3 terminals, s50 starter has 4

    I'm using the m20 flywheel/clutch/starter



    so, wheres the extra wire go?
    thanks
    S50'd

    Originally posted by TDE30
    What is this faggy shit I have happened upon?
    Originally posted by slammin.e28
    I can always live in a M3. Can't M3 a house.
  • Mako18
    Mod Crazy
    • Jul 2006
    • 688

    #2
    The extra wire goes on the 10mm post (I think that is what size it was). You obviously know where the power wire goes. Also your about 30min drive from me. I know a few local e30 guys that wanna go for a cruise I'll pm you when that gets closer.
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    • Lof8
      R3VLimited
      • Oct 2006
      • 2827

      #3
      Originally posted by Mako18
      The extra wire goes on the 10mm post (I think that is what size it was). You obviously know where the power wire goes. Also your about 30min drive from me. I know a few local e30 guys that wanna go for a cruise I'll pm you when that gets closer.
      That sounds cool. Let me know. I'd love to join in once this thing is rolling again.
      S50'd

      Originally posted by TDE30
      What is this faggy shit I have happened upon?
      Originally posted by slammin.e28
      I can always live in a M3. Can't M3 a house.

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      • Lof8
        R3VLimited
        • Oct 2006
        • 2827

        #4
        are you saying I double up the small wires onto a single post?
        S50'd

        Originally posted by TDE30
        What is this faggy shit I have happened upon?
        Originally posted by slammin.e28
        I can always live in a M3. Can't M3 a house.

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        • gregslow318i
          E30 Mastermind
          • Sep 2007
          • 1918

          #5
          ok since I cant post a pic of it I just try to explain it. the lower post that uses the 10mm bolt is the main signal from the starter switch, the outer most 13mm bolt is the main 12v power port, and the upper most 8mm bolt is the underload signal to the dme, the inner most port is just used as a power port to the main starter motor. and does not have anything other connected to it other than what is already there

          on any m50 based harness the starter leads are all sized accordingly if they hay not be cut or modified, I.E. 8 mm will only fit the 8mm lug tightly, 10mm only 10mm tightly and 13mm to 13mm tightly
          looking for a e30m50 swap harness adapter pm me $150 shipped
          email nitroman12@gmail.com

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          • Lof8
            R3VLimited
            • Oct 2006
            • 2827

            #6
            I think I'm following you, but what do I do with the extra wire from the s50 harness if I'm using the m20 starter?
            S50'd

            Originally posted by TDE30
            What is this faggy shit I have happened upon?
            Originally posted by slammin.e28
            I can always live in a M3. Can't M3 a house.

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            • Lof8
              R3VLimited
              • Oct 2006
              • 2827

              #7
              bump. what do I need to do to make the m20 starter work with the s50 wiring?
              S50'd

              Originally posted by TDE30
              What is this faggy shit I have happened upon?
              Originally posted by slammin.e28
              I can always live in a M3. Can't M3 a house.

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              • bimmerboy02
                Member
                • Aug 2008
                • 66

                #8
                I switched solenoids cause I wanted to do everything as it was stock. The starter does work after doing this and it was real easy

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                • Mako18
                  Mod Crazy
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 688

                  #9
                  I just doubled mine and had no issue I am using a e34 harness on a e30 starter.
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                  • Lof8
                    R3VLimited
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 2827

                    #10
                    Originally posted by bimmerboy02
                    I switched solenoids cause I wanted to do everything as it was stock. The starter does work after doing this and it was real easy
                    I like this idea
                    S50'd

                    Originally posted by TDE30
                    What is this faggy shit I have happened upon?
                    Originally posted by slammin.e28
                    I can always live in a M3. Can't M3 a house.

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                    • mentaleeill
                      E30 Modder
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 850

                      #11
                      thats weird, my m20 starter has 4 terminals. the smaller post(8mm nut) is for the unloader. it needs to be hooked up for the power windows and hvac to work.

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                      • kevmo707
                        Member
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 62

                        #12
                        on any m50 based harness the starter leads are all sized accordingly if they hay not be cut or modified, I.E. 8 mm will only fit the 8mm lug tightly, 10mm only 10mm tightly and 13mm to 13mm tightly[/quote]

                        I did this and now when i turn the key all the starter does is click once, but does not spin. My harness only has the three leads, one large, the other med, and the last small. Any thoughts

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                        • MIKe30
                          R3VLimited
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 2334

                          #13
                          Originally posted by mentaleeill
                          thats weird, my m20 starter has 4 terminals. the smaller post(8mm nut) is for the unloader. it needs to be hooked up for the power windows and hvac to work.
                          I think there is a difference between early m20 and late m20 starters. Number of terminals just may be it.
                          Originally posted by kevmo707
                          on any m50 based harness the starter leads are all sized accordingly if they hay not be cut or modified, I.E. 8 mm will only fit the 8mm lug tightly, 10mm only 10mm tightly and 13mm to 13mm tightly
                          I did this and now when i turn the key all the starter does is click once, but does not spin. My harness only has the three leads, one large, the other med, and the last small. Any thoughts
                          Make sure you have all the proper wires hooked up and not just some of them. IIRC, I have a total of 3 power wires (2 from e36 harness, one jumper to alternator) on the big post, 2 on top post 30-h (one of those is for the unloader circuit off my harness), and one on the bottom post. This is just off memory though.

                          Search power cables and starter wiring, FredK has a million good posts about this stuff in this forum. Just search it to verify your harness/fusebox power and your starter wiring is right. Good luck

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