harmonics at 2-3k?

[MIKe30]

How lose was it? It could have put strain on the pilot bearing and made it fail fast. Did you run it after tightening it up?

haven't tightened it up yet, and no I haven't run it. Been driving the old man's truck since I sold my dd. I'll do it tomorrow after work hopefully (well, later today). Have to get up super early again, so time for bed. Will be sure to update..

[416stroker]

How loose was it? It could have put strain on the pilot bearing and made it fail fast. Did you run it after tightening it up?

[MIKe30]

well I think you're right. was under there a bit today, lots of vibration from the tranny. Going to tighten down the bolts first, since the tranny is a little loose and I either A, didn't do a good job tightening things up or B, from whatever issue it's having the last, first, and only 30 miles already got the tranny feeling loose. Can't blame it on the goose this time, ha.

plan is tighten things up, see if any change. If no change, pull, inspect, hopefully fix, re-install, check, report.

Thanks for the opinions so far guys..

[416stroker]

Ya thats what I ment Its a ball bearing. Its not you engine IMO.

[MIKe30]

It soulds like a pilot bearing to me. I just listend to your video.

fixed?

i'll report back soon. time will tell. God I hope its the damn pilot bearing with no lasting damage resulting...................bah.

[416stroker]

It soulds like a bearing to me. I just listend to your video.

[MIKe30]

Reliablity Power Inexpensive

Pick 2.

I am 13k into mine. And I even had the S50 - Half the 5 Lug - and the brakes and suspension. The only problem I had was that my dipstick tube oring destroyed it self and my booster split in half.

When doing a major change you are always going to have little things to happen. For the most part the problems are still pretty small.

That sounds like a PCV is stuck. OBD 1 or 2 Manifold?

13 came and went a long time ago for me. OBD1 manifold. No pcv or air/oil seperator at the moment, which may be part of my vacuum issue I suppose.

I've said it before and I've said it again, noise is DEFINATELY coming from rear/bottom of block or right at start of bellhousing.

Just got a hold of my uncle's scope. Going to go check it out now...

[jrdeamicis]

No leaks.

Yea, no difference with clutch in or out.


yea, this is part of the reason why i'm so fucking $$$$ deep into this motor. I didn't want to have to worry about ANYTHING after getting it running, and now this. It will honestly be a relieft though if it is just the pilot bearing with no other damage to the motor.

Is it possible or likely to have any damage caused to the block by a pilot bearing that has slipped out of position?

Reliablity Power Inexpensive

Pick 2.

I am 13k into mine. And I even had the S50 - Half the 5 Lug - and the brakes and suspension. The only problem I had was that my dipstick tube oring destroyed it self and my booster split in half.

When doing a major change you are always going to have little things to happen. For the most part the problems are still pretty small.

That sounds like a PCV is stuck. OBD 1 or 2 Manifold?

[Spaz]

I doubt any damage would occur, what i'm picturing is the outside race of the pilot bearing spinning inside of the flywheel instead of staying still.

-Cam

[MIKe30]

That sounds like it could be one of the bearings in the trans, but they make more of a grinding noise when they go bad. If it doesn't go away with the clutch pedal in, then I would rule out the throw out bearing. It's a little high pitched though, I'd be worried about play in the input shaft.

You didn't see any leaks causing an insufficient amount of fluid did you?

No leaks.

Since the noise doesn't go away when clutch pedal in, i'd blame the pilot bearing in a heart beat.

Only other thing i could think of would be an issue with the flywheel? Eitherway i'd be yanking the trans.

-Cam

Yea, no difference with clutch in or out.

:( either way not a fun way to start up a swap...

I know how you feel though dude. My first swap, the head ended up being cracked in 3 places. That was a fun first start up...

yea, this is part of the reason why i'm so fucking $$$$ deep into this motor. I didn't want to have to worry about ANYTHING after getting it running, and now this. It will honestly be a relieft though if it is just the pilot bearing with no other damage to the motor.

Is it possible or likely to have any damage caused to the block by a pilot bearing that has slipped out of position?

[So Live]

:( either way not a fun way to start up a swap...

I know how you feel though dude. My first swap, the head ended up being cracked in 3 places. That was a fun first start up...

[Spaz]

Since the noise doesn't go away when clutch pedal in, i'd blame the pilot bearing in a heart beat.

Only other thing i could think of would be an issue with the flywheel? Eitherway i'd be yanking the trans.

-Cam

[e30polak]

That sounds like it could be one of the bearings in the trans, but they make more of a grinding noise when they go bad. If it doesn't go away with the clutch pedal in, then I would rule out the throw out bearing. It's a little high pitched though, I'd be worried about play in the input shaft.

You didn't see any leaks causing an insufficient amount of fluid did you?

[MIKe30]

well, i take back the scope comment and my uncle will be bringing his mechanics scope home from work tomorrow. I can hear a bit of a rattle, I believe (hope) it's coming from the bellhousing. Part of the belief is the extreme vibration that seems like it's coming from the transmission.

here is a vid with sound. I have 3 more vids but it's late and I can't listen to them now. I did hear this one and I know it is the one that displays the sound the best. This was after the engine warmed up. When cold, it just a slight rattling/loose sound then when warm turns into this. Extremely hard to tell if it's from the rear of the block, or the bellhousing of the tranny. Best heard from underneath - where this vid is taken with a buddy's phone.



My dad believes it may be the pilot bearing. We used a puller to remove the old one, the new one was unusually easy to slide in. IIRC we barely even had to tap it, if at all, to slide it back into position.

Any thoughts?

[MIKe30]

scope would blow my ears out. it's become that loud. Going to grab video now...