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  • 5KWattson
    E30 Modder
    • Apr 2009
    • 809

    #1

    Drive train vibration

    its been awhile now since i swapped the M50 in my car, everything is good except i get a small vibration at lower RPM's in each gear. im using the gatrag 260 with stock drive shafts and a 4:10 lsd...i checked the vibration dampener it was a rotted POS so i chucked it calmed down the vibration some but not all the way. Any one got an idea?
    "God created turbo lag to give V8's a chance" Taylor D.
  • herlsy
    Grease Monkey
    • Sep 2009
    • 339

    #2
    Center support bearing, driveshaft not straight, driveshaft not balanced, bolts to flex disc and diff tightened.

    Thats pretty much all i'd check.

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    • 5KWattson
      E30 Modder
      • Apr 2009
      • 809

      #3
      all checked out fine...kinda the only thing i am concerned of is the drive shaft not being straight when i did the M50 i made solid motor mounts, but i didnt have a e28 mount laying around for proper height so i guessed. it worked does not hit the oil pan nor too high but the motor/trans angle may be slightly F*ed off, anyone know the angle it should sit?
      "God created turbo lag to give V8's a chance" Taylor D.

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      • herlsy
        Grease Monkey
        • Sep 2009
        • 339

        #4
        Seems like a common issue for the motor to twist slightly to the passenger side, causing the transmission to be slightly to the right. Take a look at your trans mounts and see if they look like they have any uneven pressure.

        What trans are you using?

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        • 5KWattson
          E30 Modder
          • Apr 2009
          • 809

          #5
          my apologies i meant to mention this too im using solid trans mounts as well as motor mounts, i racked it like 6 times tryin to find out what was wrong but with out a angle gauge i cant tell if its off or not eye balled looks fine but you know how that goes
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          • surebimmer
            E30 Modder
            • Jan 2004
            • 978

            #6
            I would say with solid motor mounts that a small vibration would be normal operation.

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            • 5KWattson
              E30 Modder
              • Apr 2009
              • 809

              #7
              its not that i cant distingush a difference in vibrations, its @ low RPM's in every gear than it goes away above 2500-3000rpm's
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              • Wh33lhop
                R3V OG
                • Feb 2009
                • 11705

                #8
                Wait, you've got solid metal mounts and you're wondering why your car is vibrating?

                Edit: I assume you mean more of a low-frequency oscillation ("vum-vum-vum") than a vibration. Does it do it in neutral? I recently shimmed the motor mounts without shimming the trans mounts (not even sure how you'd do that, seeing as the trans mount studs are so short) and I think I'm getting what I think is a little guibo shimmy around 2k in second and sometimes third. Interestingly, it goes away at higher RPMs and is not present in 4th or 5th.
                Last edited by Wh33lhop; 01-20-2010, 06:26 PM.
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                • 5KWattson
                  E30 Modder
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 809

                  #9
                  it does not vibrate in neutral...it is present in all gears...untill are 2.5-3k
                  "God created turbo lag to give V8's a chance" Taylor D.

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                  • Wh33lhop
                    R3V OG
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 11705

                    #10
                    Describe the vibration. If it's at the same RPM in each gear it's probably not the driveshaft/guibo. Hell I'm not convinced my vibration is the guibo because it's only present at about 2-3k.
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                    • bloodshot-e30
                      E30 Fanatic
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 1494

                      #11
                      check a loose bolt in the guibo that was my problem at low R's and when slowing down
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                      • z31maniac
                        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 17566

                        #12
                        It's the fact you are using SOLID trans mounts.

                        They transmit a TON of NVH into the cabin. You'll have to deal with it or change them out.
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                        • bloodshot-e30
                          E30 Fanatic
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 1494

                          #13
                          ^^ or this lol i forgot about ur solid mounts
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                          • z31maniac
                            I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 17566

                            #14
                            ^That's going on the assumption that everything else is good like he says.

                            But seriously solid trans mounts are not ideal for a street car, I'd never do that again.
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                            • 5KWattson
                              E30 Modder
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 809

                              #15
                              Forgot to post up what the prob was and my correction. So when I was doing the swap my friend thought we were going to pull the trans out(which we didn't, but while I was prep'n the motor to go in, he loosened the guibo, so 3 of the 6 bolts were loose causing the vibration, it was NOT from solid mounts...I do know the difference between harmonics and a violent vibration. Tightened up the bolts and was good to go. Solved this along time ago just went to the back of my mind
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