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Originally posted by lennon View Post300bhp is a lot on an s52. mike30 had a vac head, cams, 11:1 pistons, etc, etc, all the best, and i think he made like 280whp with some tuning left. find his thread, then ask him how much hit cost, then price an s54. or just stop thinking you need some arbitrary power figure when youve never even driven any swapped e30s.
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For what it's worth, a Euro S50B32 conversion is gonna cost around $7k and an S54 will cost around $9k--- Those are the minimum you'll pay with low to average parts cost doing all of your own mechanical work (assuming most garage mechanics can't tackle MSS54...). I can tell you that my very healthy 70k S52 with all of the bolt-on go-fast parts cost me $5k-ish. My new engine is closing in on the $10k figure--- fast.
This is my opinion based on extensive research of both conversions and the effect it's already had on my wallet..
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Originally posted by rThor432 View PostFor what it's worth, a Euro S50B32 conversion is gonna cost around $7k and an S54 will cost around $9k--- Those are the minimum you'll pay with low to average parts cost doing all of your own mechanical work (assuming most garage mechanics can't tackle MSS54...). I can tell you that my very healthy 70k S52 with all of the bolt-on go-fast parts cost me $5k-ish. My new engine is closing in on the $10k figure--- fast.
This is my opinion based on extensive research of both conversions and the effect it's already had on my wallet..
OP, heres metric mechanic's m50-based list. maybe not the authority on 24v motors, but just an example for you. those prices on the right column are core deposits. if youre skilled you could build one cheaper but you see why it becomes impractical unless its a race car that needs to keep the same engine.
3200 HiFlo ST Sport OBD I or II 275 HP $8,995 $2000 - $3500
3000 HiFlo ST Rally OBD I or II 265-285 HP $8,995 $2000 - $3500
3100 HiFlo ST Rally OBD I 270-290 HP $9,495 $2000
3200 HiFlo ST Rally OBD I or II 280-305 HP $10,495 $2000 - $3500
3300 HiFlo ST Rally OBD I or II 295-315 HP $11,995 $2000 - $3500
3400 HiFlo ST Rally OBD I or II 305-325 HP $13,995 $2000 - $3500Last edited by lennon; 04-15-2010, 08:16 AM.
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Originally posted by rThor432 View PostHa, plus one. Good (great) point about the fact that he hasn't driven a swapped E30 anyway..
Originally posted by rThor432 View PostFor what it's worth, a Euro S50B32 conversion is gonna cost around $7k and an S54 will cost around $9k--- Those are the minimum you'll pay with low to average parts cost doing all of your own mechanical work (assuming most garage mechanics can't tackle MSS54...). I can tell you that my very healthy 70k S52 with all of the bolt-on go-fast parts cost me $5k-ish. My new engine is closing in on the $10k figure--- fast.
This is my opinion based on extensive research of both conversions and the effect it's already had on my wallet..
Originally posted by wh33lhop View PostThere is no Euro S52. It's euro S50B30 (286hp) and S50B32 (321hp). Mind you, IIRC the latter was factory underrated, but they're still a very stout motor.
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Originally posted by xwill112x View Postjesus christ. there is no uero s52. they only had s50's. a s52b32 and a s50b32 are COMPLETLY different.
p.s. please don't use the name of Jesus like that
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Originally posted by iXguido View Post
I stand corrected. So euro motor is s50 and NA is s52?
HTML Code:e36 M3 1994-1997 1997-1999 North America s50b32 s52b32 Europe s50b32 s50b32
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Originally posted by ryno View Posthaha yep, to summarize (the years might be off on the char below, but u get the point)
HTML Code:e36 M3 1994-1997 1997-1999 North America s50b32 s52b32 Europe s50b32 s50b32
HTML Code:e36 M3 1994-1997 1997-1999 North America s50b30US s52b32 Europe s50b30 s50b32
Then again, that's just my take.Last edited by Wh33lhop; 04-15-2010, 04:02 PM.
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Originally posted by Wh33lhop View PostThat chart is wrong. Should be:
HTML Code:e36 M3 1994-1997 1997-1999 North America s50b30US s52b32 Europe s50b30 s50b32
Then again, that's just my take.
Originally posted by flawdaboi407 View PostI raced a local e30 s50b30, zf trans, 2.93 diff vs my m30b35, getrag 240, 2.93 diff and won by half a car. He was pissed more cuz I had drum brakes lol. he was like all i saw was your drum brake and I was like WTF
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Originally posted by flawdaboi407 View PostI raced a local e30 s50b30, zf trans, 2.93 diff vs my m30b35, getrag 240, 2.93 diff and won by half a car. He was pissed more cuz I had drum brakes lol. he was like all i saw was your drum brake and I was like WTF
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