Hey R3V how do my starter wires look?

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  • Wishno87
    R3V OG
    • Jul 2007
    • 6025

    #16
    Originally posted by samiam3356
    This picture should be put in the sticky. Seems to get asked a lot.
    Yes! Thanks so much!

    That was exactly what I was looking for!
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    • Adrian_Visser
      R3VLimited
      • Jun 2006
      • 2823

      #17
      Originally posted by herlsy
      The starter on the left is the one i used, its hard to get the harness starter wires wrong since usually the ring terminals on them match the size of each lug.

      Green/Black - Ground for Unloader relays
      Red - Power direct from power junction block (firewall)
      Black/Yellow - +12v from Ignition Switch
      Yeah that picture sums up a lot of questions asked on here. I second the sticky vote.

      '89 Alpine S52 with goodies

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      • Schwarz325
        E30 Addict
        • Aug 2009
        • 487

        #18
        I still don't get where the black wire off the firewall has to go, i understand that the red one , the guy marked comes off of the e36 harness, no ? haha sorry i'm slow sometimes

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        • herlsy
          Grease Monkey
          • Sep 2009
          • 339

          #19
          The black wire is the stock e30 wire that terminates into the battery clamp, essentially its the same as the Red wire that comes with the e36/e34 harness.

          You could put both the black (e30) and the red (e36) on the same starter lug if you wanted, i chose to just cut my black wire off of the battery junction clamp and used connected the e36 one to the clamp with the bolts already there.

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          • Schwarz325
            E30 Addict
            • Aug 2009
            • 487

            #20
            So you can put the thick red one, the thick black one and the alternator wire all on the same stud on the starter?

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            • Wishno87
              R3V OG
              • Jul 2007
              • 6025

              #21
              Just went to start the car for the first time. No bannana. The starter spins but does not touch the flywheel.
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              • Schwarz325
                E30 Addict
                • Aug 2009
                • 487

                #22
                sounds like the bendix is not engaging, can you hear the bendix retract back..it's a really loud click?

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                • Wishno87
                  R3V OG
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 6025

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Schwarz325
                  sounds like the bendix is not engaging, can you hear the bendix retract back..it's a really loud click?
                  Well it just barely touches sometimes. It seems like the starter gear is popping out but not enough to touch the flywheel. I'm using a euro 323 flywheel.
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                  • Wishno87
                    R3V OG
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 6025

                    #24
                    So it turned out the teeth on the starter was not compatible with the ring gear on my 323 flywheel. The starter i pulled had wide fat teeth and the one i put in had thin sharper teeth. The outsides of both looked the same and they both had the same connections.
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                    • Schwarz325
                      E30 Addict
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 487

                      #25
                      You get it started?

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                      • Wishno87
                        R3V OG
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 6025

                        #26
                        Yup it cranks and starts just fine now.
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                        • LTDScott
                          Wrencher
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 259

                          #27
                          Sorry to bring back a thread from the dead, but I can't find any info regarding how to wire up the older style starter shown on the right here.



                          Obviously big cable goes to the top stud, medium size (yellow/black) goes on the smaller stud on the right, but what about the black/green unloader wire? I have a fully gutted race car with no electronics in the car at all (except gauges), so do I even need the unloader?
                          The Homer: Powerful like a gorilla, yet soft and yielding like a Nerf ball.

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                          • Alpine 7even
                            Noobie
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 11

                            #28
                            I'd Also like to know!

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                            • 328ijunkie
                              Forum Sponsor
                              • May 2007
                              • 3961

                              #29
                              On 87 and below cars, the unloader relay is wired internal to the body harness.

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                              • Habla
                                E30 Fanatic
                                • May 2004
                                • 1470

                                #30
                                I'd just like to say that this thread got my engine to fire. I fucked up and wired both small leads to the ground post on my m50 starter, so I had no trigger contact. I remembered that I did that after seeing this. I spent almost 2 hours fixing the problem (didn't take the manifold off) and the starter kicked the engine and it fired right up!

                                Cheers,
                                -Peter
                                -Peter
                                318is slicktop | F15 35dM | F250 SD

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