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  • samiam3356
    E30 Mastermind
    • Jul 2009
    • 1901

    #1

    Fuel Pressure question

    Was reading in the Bentley where fuel pressure on x50 motors are 43.5 ~2.9 and fuel pressure on the x52 blocks are 51 +- 2.9.

    When converting to OBD1 and using the m50 fuel rail, wouldn't you be lowering the fuel pressure on a motor that was designed for a higher pressure. Or does the software compensate for this?

    Was wondering if it would be better to have an adjustable FPR to get the pressure back where it should be?

    Sorry if its been discussed. Haven't seen it on here before and running into an issue on my car with the fuel pump that has had me in the Bentley for a bit now.

    Originally posted by Roysneon
    $5 shipped?
    Originally posted by MarkD
    You are a strange dude, I'n not answering any more posts from you.
  • Adrian_Visser
    R3VLimited
    • Jun 2006
    • 2823

    #2
    That's interesting now that you mention it. I thought all were 3.5 bar.

    '89 Alpine S52 with goodies

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    • crazyvwobie
      Wrencher
      • May 2010
      • 298

      #3
      Originally posted by samiam3356
      Was reading in the Bentley where fuel pressure on x50 motors are 43.5 ~2.9 and fuel pressure on the x52 blocks are 51 +- 2.9.

      When converting to OBD1 and using the m50 fuel rail, wouldn't you be lowering the fuel pressure on a motor that was designed for a higher pressure. Or does the software compensate for this?

      Was wondering if it would be better to have an adjustable FPR to get the pressure back where it should be?

      Sorry if its been discussed. Haven't seen it on here before and running into an issue on my car with the fuel pump that has had me in the Bentley for a bit now.


      seems to me you should be running what ever fuel pressure is required for obd1 which I believe is 3 bar.I would not think it matters on what size engine because the software should be giving the correct amount of air and fuel ,as long as the chip matches your setup.I just installed a fuel pressure gauge on my obd1 s52 and it reads 40psi at idle and 43 if I rev it.

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      • Adrian_Visser
        R3VLimited
        • Jun 2006
        • 2823

        #4
        Hmm this made me realize something. I think I have the wrong fuel injectors, I'm sure I did the flow calculation using 3.5 Bars pressure. Guess I better get some cams and use my 24lb'ers right quick eh?

        '89 Alpine S52 with goodies

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        • 328ijunkie
          Forum Sponsor
          • May 2007
          • 3961

          #5
          The OBD2 regulator is mounted under the drivers feet on E36s and XXX
          Last edited by 328ijunkie; 03-10-2011, 12:39 PM.

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          • AlpineS50E30
            Wrencher
            • Nov 2010
            • 289

            #6
            i'm running about 58#ish on idle and 62 at WOT on my s50...used to run at 50#ish but bumped it up and made a WORLD of difference on how the car ran... don't go higher than that or you'll be running too rich throwing black smoke on WOT lol
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            • samiam3356
              E30 Mastermind
              • Jul 2009
              • 1901

              #7
              What is your setup? Adj FPR obviously but which one? injector size? Chip programmed for what?

              Thanks BTW

              Originally posted by Roysneon
              $5 shipped?
              Originally posted by MarkD
              You are a strange dude, I'n not answering any more posts from you.

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              • AlpineS50E30
                Wrencher
                • Nov 2010
                • 289

                #8
                Originally posted by samiam3356
                What is your setup? Adj FPR obviously but which one? injector size? Chip programmed for what?

                Thanks BTW
                no problem, i'm running an aeromotive FPR with 21.5# injectors and my software is Active Autowerke Tune, i'm changing to a TRM tune very soon, my father has Turner Chip in his car with 24# software(s52) and is also running the same FPR with the same fuel pressure i am, i've seen guys bump it even higher, but i think it runs too rich if you bump it any higher, if you don't wanna go that high for whatever reason then i'd say just leave it at 55, but at least try it, car runs great when it's bumped up....pull the vacuum hose and adjust it to 45#...drive it then try it at 60...you'll notice a difference...:)

                p.s.: my old m42 pump couldn't handle the pressure/volume, so i'm running a 255lph walbro...
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                • samiam3356
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 1901

                  #9
                  This the one you used?



                  Also, what fuel rail are you using? OBD2?

                  Originally posted by Roysneon
                  $5 shipped?
                  Originally posted by MarkD
                  You are a strange dude, I'n not answering any more posts from you.

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                  • AlpineS50E30
                    Wrencher
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 289

                    #10
                    Originally posted by samiam3356
                    This the one you used?



                    Also, what fuel rail are you using? OBD2?
                    OBD1, this is the regulator i'm using:http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AEI-13101/?rtype=10
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                    • 328ijunkie
                      Forum Sponsor
                      • May 2007
                      • 3961

                      #11
                      Theyre all 3.5 bar.

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                      • samiam3356
                        E30 Mastermind
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 1901

                        #12

                        Originally posted by Roysneon
                        $5 shipped?
                        Originally posted by MarkD
                        You are a strange dude, I'n not answering any more posts from you.

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                        • 328ijunkie
                          Forum Sponsor
                          • May 2007
                          • 3961

                          #13
                          Well i have two OBD1 fuel rails sitting in front of me both say 3.5 bar and this:
                          http://www.pelicanparts.com/bmw/cata...pg3.htm#item20

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                          • AlpineS50E30
                            Wrencher
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 289

                            #14
                            Originally posted by samiam3356
                            mehh. for ///M motors you bump it up =p, for example the s54 runs at 5 bar.(stock btw)
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                            • matt
                              No R3VLimiter
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 3731

                              #15
                              Originally posted by samiam3356
                              [IMG]http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m261/srainey1/fpr.jpg
                              Not the first time the bentley is wrong.

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