M42 radiator wiring in early model former M20 car?

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  • Jand3rson
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    • Oct 2003
    • 37587

    #1

    M42 radiator wiring in early model former M20 car?

    Hey guys, got a few questions about wiring an M42 radiator in with my M50 swapped car, formerly an '86 325e (M20 car).

    So this is the wiring that used to connect to my old radiator, and those connections were on the driver side:


    These are the sensors that those wires connected to, on the old radiator:


    And this is the lone temp sensor on the M42 radiator, passenger side:


    So obviously that temp sensor has to come out and one of the ones from the old radiator has to take it's place, correct? And that wiring is going to have to be extended to reach the passenger side. My first question is, which one? Second, what was the other one for, and can it be discarded? Was it for the AC fan?
  • MR 325
    Moderator
    • Oct 2003
    • 37826

    #2
    Josh, you don't need to hook up any of that wiring for your swap.
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    • jrdeamicis
      E30 Modder
      • Nov 2008
      • 956

      #3
      If he wants to use the stock wiring for the aux fan he does.
      Past Car : E30 S50 6 Speed 5 Lug 3.73
      Current : Z3 S50 OBD2 (Smog Legal) 6 Speed BBS RN Dual Ear Diff
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      • browntown
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        • Jun 2004
        • 3524

        #4
        I can't help, but I was under the impression all the radiator wiring was body harness side and it would hook up the same regardless of the engine sitting in front of it. no?

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        • Jand3rson
          Banned
          • Oct 2003
          • 37587

          #5
          Originally posted by MR 325
          Josh, you don't need to hook up any of that wiring for your swap.
          Ooooooh, that's all to control the fan, isn't it? So if I'm running an aftermarket electric fan, I won't need any of that then, right?

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          • jrdeamicis
            E30 Modder
            • Nov 2008
            • 956

            #6
            Originally posted by Janderson
            Ooooooh, that's all to control the fan, isn't it? So if I'm running an aftermarket electric fan, I won't need any of that then, right?
            No, but you do need to put a temp sensor somewhere to switch the fan.
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            Current : Z3 S50 OBD2 (Smog Legal) 6 Speed BBS RN Dual Ear Diff
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            • Jand3rson
              Banned
              • Oct 2003
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              #7
              Originally posted by jrdeamicis
              No, but you do need to put a temp sensor somewhere to switch the fan.
              So is that what the one sticking out of the side of the M42 radiator is, in the last pic? If so, do I just swap the one out of the old radiator in its place, and extend the wires over to connect to it?

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              • jrdeamicis
                E30 Modder
                • Nov 2008
                • 956

                #8
                The new 3 pin connector temp switch will work fine. If I remember correctly it should be a 12V send and then one pin is HIGH and one pin is LOW. You can just wire the control from the switch to your fan relay.
                Past Car : E30 S50 6 Speed 5 Lug 3.73
                Current : Z3 S50 OBD2 (Smog Legal) 6 Speed BBS RN Dual Ear Diff
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                • JTapper
                  E30 Modder
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 847

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jrdeamicis
                  The new 3 pin connector temp switch will work fine. If I remember correctly it should be a 12V send and then one pin is HIGH and one pin is LOW. You can just wire the control from the switch to your fan relay.
                  This is correct.

                  I wired twin slim fans to the factory wiring. The low temp switch turns one fan on and the high turns on the second. This also made it so I can press the A/C switch and power at least one fan regardless of coolant temp. Wiring this way is super clean.
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                  • Jand3rson
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 37587

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jrdeamicis
                    The new 3 pin connector temp switch will work fine. If I remember correctly it should be a 12V send and then one pin is HIGH and one pin is LOW. You can just wire the control from the switch to your fan relay.
                    So I need to get the wiring connector that goes into that sensor? Because I don't have it.

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                    • jrdeamicis
                      E30 Modder
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 956

                      #11
                      If I dig deep enough in my bins and bins of wiring I am sure I can find you one.
                      Past Car : E30 S50 6 Speed 5 Lug 3.73
                      Current : Z3 S50 OBD2 (Smog Legal) 6 Speed BBS RN Dual Ear Diff
                      ___________________________________________
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                      Richmond CA
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                      • Jand3rson
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 37587

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jrdeamicis
                        If I dig deep enough in my bins and bins of wiring I am sure I can find you one.
                        Cool, thanks! Let me know, and I'll pay you for it, if you want.

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                        • jrdeamicis
                          E30 Modder
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 956

                          #13
                          Originally posted by JTapper
                          This is correct.

                          I wired twin slim fans to the factory wiring. The low temp switch turns one fan on and the high turns on the second. This also made it so I can press the A/C switch and power at least one fan regardless of coolant temp. Wiring this way is super clean.
                          I always like running a low temp coolant fan. Just keep it out of mind. My car deals with it self. Not me dealing with the car....

                          And janderson, I will work on finding it tomorrow.
                          Past Car : E30 S50 6 Speed 5 Lug 3.73
                          Current : Z3 S50 OBD2 (Smog Legal) 6 Speed BBS RN Dual Ear Diff
                          ___________________________________________
                          BNB Designs
                          Engine Swaps, Fabrication, Innovation, General Repair
                          Richmond CA
                          Julian 848-248-8029

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                          • MR 325
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                            • Oct 2003
                            • 37826

                            #14
                            If you want to hook the electric fan to an OEM sensor you will need to run the wires. You'll need a different lower temp sensor for the radiator though. If it were me I'd just run a simple aftermarket fan controller.

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                            Your local auto parts store will sell something similar too.
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                            • browntown
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                              • Jun 2004
                              • 3524

                              #15
                              I'm so confused, I just went into the garage and pressed the a/c switch on my m20 that doesn't have any a/c or condensor fan anymore, and the engine still changes pitch like it is running differently. Clearly I don't understand the fan wiring and will shutup now.

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