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  • E30Gus
    Mod Crazy
    • Jun 2008
    • 781

    #106
    OK I just installed the IE 14 inch electric fan as a pusher. I don't have AC so the fan fits in the AC/Aux fan spot nicely. I have the 82C fan switch in the radiator and all wired up to the original wiring. My problem is that the coolant temp gets above the half way mark and the fan doesn't kick on. If I jumper the switch the fan comes on and everything is good to go. So, bad switch? Actually I have two of the same switches and nothing happens with either. Two bad switches? One is brand new. I guess I should test the switch in 82c water.
    Any ideas?
    Gus

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    • E30Gus
      Mod Crazy
      • Jun 2008
      • 781

      #107
      Well I tested the switch and it works perfectly. I put it back in and let the car get hot. The fan doesn't kick on until just before the tick after center (~3/4) which is too hot for my comfort zone. Do you think this has to do with the plastic sides of my stock radiator? Could my temp readout be off a little bit? Is there a lower temp switch I can put in there instead of the 80C?

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      • 328ijunkie
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        • May 2007
        • 3961

        #108
        Bleed cooling System.

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        • E30Gus
          Mod Crazy
          • Jun 2008
          • 781

          #109
          Originally posted by 328ijunkie
          Bleed cooling System.
          It's bled. I made sure there wasn't any air near the switch by cracking it open while running. I could hear a little hiss of air escape. I also jacked the pass side of the car up to get any bubbles out of that corner and along the top of the radiator.

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          • 328ijunkie
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            • May 2007
            • 3961

            #110
            Radiator 100 years old? WP 100 years old?

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            • E30Gus
              Mod Crazy
              • Jun 2008
              • 781

              #111
              Originally posted by 328ijunkie
              Radiator 100 years old? WP 100 years old?
              My whole cooling system is only a few years old. I just did a flush, replaced the hose that was starting to get chewed by the fan, and replaced the thermostat. Car is running steady near the center mark. Even on the track the temp only goes up a little bit. I don't know what it could be. Maybe I should try swapping the temp sender to see if it is reading wrong/off a bit?

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              • bzboardz
                E30 Enthusiast
                • May 2009
                • 1096

                #112
                Originally posted by E30Gus
                OK I just installed the IE 14 inch electric fan as a pusher. I don't have AC so the fan fits in the AC/Aux fan spot nicely. I have the 82C fan switch in the radiator and all wired up to the original wiring. My problem is that the coolant temp gets above the half way mark and the fan doesn't kick on. If I jumper the switch the fan comes on and everything is good to go. So, bad switch? Actually I have two of the same switches and nothing happens with either. Two bad switches? One is brand new. I guess I should test the switch in 82c water.
                Any ideas?
                Gus
                I am in the same position. When jumping the switch fan engages perfectly but when temp gauge occasionally creeps up above half way point no fan. Iv tried both the stock 92C and 82C temp switch, both have been new.

                Radiator is bled, and under normal driving temp stays below half way mark.

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                • 328ijunkie
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                  • May 2007
                  • 3961

                  #113
                  If the car runs at half with the 80C thermostat then youre fine. It should be a decent bit below half at cruise and a bit over half when the fan kicks on in all of my experience. It should def not ever cross 3/4 but from the sound of it your temp gauge is a little off.

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                  • Gooch
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 1674

                    #114
                    Same thing here. Bought an aftermarket 80/88 and the fan would not kick on by itself. So I tried an OEM 80/88 and still no dice. Jumpering the fan at the plug works both high and low speeds. I returned the OEM switch and am awaiting a replacement, we'll see what happens.

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                    • nmlss2006
                      E30 Modder
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 910

                      #115
                      I have the 80C thermostat and the 80/88C Z3 three pole switch. However, I kept the stock wiring and replaced the stock resistor with a small circuit. I then hooked a 16" SPAL to the 'factory' leads and I get adjustable low speed at 80C or when the AC is on and high speed at 88C. Like it was from the factory - and I can adjust the low speed via a pot in the little circuit. I think it's a better idea than just running high speed all the time because my fan is LOUD at high speed (I got the fastest SPAL 16", straight blade, yes, it moves a lot of air but it will drown out the engine at idle rather nicely).
                      Incidentally, the circuit I put toghether is a stupid transistor constant voltage deal, a PWM would probably be a better idea.
                      Incidentally II, I also tend to be of the opinion that everyone is running these engines way too cool. I didn't put in the 80C thermostat and I may yet replace it.

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                      • 328ijunkie
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                        • May 2007
                        • 3961

                        #116
                        Gooch, Got an IR thermo? or even a lighter? Try manually heating the fan switch and see if it fires...

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                        • nmlss2006
                          E30 Modder
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 910

                          #117
                          I would use a pot of water, not a lighter...

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                          • 328ijunkie
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                            • May 2007
                            • 3961

                            #118
                            lol, ^ yes. Lighter is easier. You dont need to cook it just warm it up a bit. If you cook it you could break the element but yes.

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                            • Gooch
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 1674

                              #119
                              Originally posted by 328ijunkie
                              Gooch, Got an IR thermo? or even a lighter? Try manually heating the fan switch and see if it fires...
                              Picking up my new fan switch tonight, and going to see what exactly is going on with an IR thermometer over the weekend. Will report back.

                              '91 318is - OBD-II S52 swapped - E30 M3 5-lug - 5x120 BBS RC090 (E39 Style 5) - TCK D/A coilovers 550/700 [SOLD]
                              '87 535i - Vacuum brake conversion [SOLD]
                              '93 525iT - 5-speed swap - 320k and counting
                              '09 328xi - 6-speed

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                              • Gooch
                                E30 Mastermind
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 1674

                                #120
                                Just swapped in a brand new OEM fan switch and both low and high speeds kicked on. Two brand new, but faulty fan switches were my problem. One was OEM and one was aftermarket, FWIW. Thanks for all the help, guys.

                                '91 318is - OBD-II S52 swapped - E30 M3 5-lug - 5x120 BBS RC090 (E39 Style 5) - TCK D/A coilovers 550/700 [SOLD]
                                '87 535i - Vacuum brake conversion [SOLD]
                                '93 525iT - 5-speed swap - 320k and counting
                                '09 328xi - 6-speed

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