It is possible?: Modified front subframe to run stock E36 oil pan

[Wishno87]

So will the S54 oil pickups bolt to the M52 oil pump like the E36 and E34 pickups?

Is this pretty much what Im looking for? How much can I expect to pay for a pan and pickup? (already checked BF.C real quick but found no pans)

http://store.bimmerworld.com/e36-dual-pickup-oil-panpump-upgrade-p968.aspx

[Wanganstyle]

Anyone know if i will have issues with the dipstick and brake booster interfering? Any issues for the S54 guys?

In 1995 in our USA, BMW sold the S54 oil pan with M3 Lightweight edition cars. It was included in the trunk with some other cool items (ltw spoiler). S50b32 (3.2 euro e36m engine) uses the same oil pan as S54. S50 GT versions (late 1994/5 euro) also came with this cool oil pan.

It has 3 pick ups instead of 1, also higher capacity; that is the main difference.

oil pan has nothing to do with brake booster. sorry
dipstick is matched to oil pan.
s54 oil pan is commonly installed on track s52's in e36'm.

s54 oil pan is designed to fit perfectly in place of s52 pan. the extra capacity sticks out on the left (usa driver) side.
only thing different when installing a S54 or S50b32 (uses same pan as s54) into rear sump car is that the steering rack needs to be dropped to clear the sump on install.

reference my e36m with S54 catless headers + oem e46m mipipes 1+2 x brace + no modifications.

[Wishno87]

It seems that the sump area on the E36 pans is too big and I will need to use an S54 pan. Is the S54 pan a direct swap over? I thought it was a dual pump pan or something like that.

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E36

[Wishno87]

Anyone know if i will have issues with the dipstick and brake booster interfering? Any issues for the S54 guys?

[gobuffs]

Goos question. I'd guesstimate 40 man hours.

[Wanganstyle]

There's 2 I know- mine and Jason's. I'm sure there are more.

how many hours of work do you estimate took into engineering / executing?

[jrdeamicis]

We are working on the oil pump situation, and don't worry. Its going to be awesome.

[gobuffs]

Actually e30 firewall relocation was done by someone stateside in spectacular execution to clear a s54 sump. :)

I won't spill the beans on that one they dont belong to me!!

There's 2 I know- mine and Jason's. I'm sure there are more.

[Wishno87]

Actually firewall mod was done by one of our r3v members in spectacular execution to clear a s54 sump. :)

I won't spill the beans on that one they dont belong to me!!

I cleared up my inbox for you :up:

[Wanganstyle]

I put money that someone somewhere in Norway has done it already

Actually e30 firewall relocation was done by someone stateside in spectacular execution to clear a s54 sump. :)

I won't spill the beans on that one they dont belong to me!!

[nrubenstein]

Yes it is...even more if you move the firewall back 5.5 inches to clear the S54 pan. *evil grin*

Clearance is roughly the same between pans. I was assuming a TinyT subframe.

Either way, it's a track only mod. There's no practical way to do it in a street car, however desirable it would be.

[ak-]

I put money that someone somewhere in Norway has done it already

[LJ851]

Yes it is...even more if you move the firewall back 5.5 inches to clear the S54 pan. *evil grin*

That's what Im talkin about!

[gobuffs]

Massaging two inches of firewall is, well, a lot of work. Especially if you want HVAC.

Yes it is...even more if you move the firewall back 5.5 inches to clear the S54 pan. *evil grin*

[nrubenstein]

How about using an unmodified e36 pan and massaging the firewall to allow the engine to move back far enough to clear the rack? Proper suspension geometry, better weight balance, and an OEM oil pan.

Massaging two inches of firewall is, well, a lot of work. Especially if you want HVAC.