My overheating experience (Don't bother, too long to read)

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  • mattrabbit
    Advanced Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 122

    #1

    My overheating experience (Don't bother, too long to read)

    After a week on the road and several white smoke filled startups, my car decided to overheat today. I have realized that I will be doing a headgasket this weekend but I just thought this was a weird overheating condition.

    The car was having some smokey startups since I finished the swap a few weeks ago. I thought maybe it was just condensation in the exhaust because it would stop after it was driven about 100 feet. I was wrong. So far as I can tell, the headgasket was leaking between cylinder 3 and a coolant passage. This resulted in a situation in which the cylinder was pumping air into the cooling system and pressurizing it. When the car is shut off, the residual pressure in the system pushed coolant into the cylinder, causing the smokey startup.

    The car ran fine like this for a while but today it got much worse. Sitting at idle in the inspection station (ironic, I know), the cooling system pressurized to the point where it ballooned out the sides of the reservoir (rad mounted m42) and blew the pressure relief on the cap, spewing coolant all over the engine bay and floor.

    I have a pusher slim fan on the radiator and when I think about it, I don't think it was running when the car overheated. The fan is hooked up using the aux fan wiring and should have been running as the temperature went up.

    The fan works fine when the a/c button is on, and had previously worked perfectly at maintaining temperature on its own.

    Is it possible that the leaking head gasket just formed a big bubble in the part of the radiator that has the temperature sensor in it, preventing it from getting an accurate reading? Or could the leak have prevented the passage of coolant into the radiator?

    After replacing the thermostat and bleeding the system, I took it around the block. The gauge shot right back up. I used an infrared thermometer and saw that the radiator was 90 degrees on the one side, 120 on the other, and the upper rad hose was hard as a rock and 150 degrees.

    I'll be replacing the headgasket this weekend, but it just irks me that I can't say for sure why the fan didn't come on by itself and made the car overheat.
  • DesertBMW
    E30 Enthusiast
    • Aug 2011
    • 1013

    #2
    Originally posted by mattrabbit

    I'll be replacing the headgasket this weekend, but it just irks me that I can't say for sure why the fan didn't come on by itself and made the car overheat.
    Your engine's overheating problem is the most common problem on these engines. Cylinder head cracked, you need another cylinder head. On S52 engine a block right at the bore can crack also.

    Expect to spend $800+ for fix

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    • SwiftE30
      E30 Modder
      • Jun 2010
      • 998

      #3
      that really sucks man. Where did you get the engine from? Is it possible it was already cracked by the PO?
      1989 E30 Zinnoberrot Vert 325i OBD1 S52 turbo;IP

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      • mattrabbit
        Advanced Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 122

        #4
        Originally posted by DesertBMW
        Your engine's overheating problem is the most common problem on these engines. Cylinder head cracked, you need another cylinder head. On S52 engine a block right at the bore can crack also.

        Expect to spend $800+ for fix

        I'm hoping the head isn't cracked but I guess I won't know for sure until I get it off the car and cleaned up.

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        • DesertBMW
          E30 Enthusiast
          • Aug 2011
          • 1013

          #5
          Originally posted by mattrabbit
          I'm hoping the head isn't cracked but I guess I won't know for sure until I get it off the car and cleaned up.
          I can garante it is cracked at one of the coolant ports, you got to clean it real good to notice

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          • mattrabbit
            Advanced Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 122

            #6
            you're right. now the question is, should I grind out the crack and weld it and machine it for free, or spend money on a new head.

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            • SwiftE30
              E30 Modder
              • Jun 2010
              • 998

              #7
              spend money on a new head. I don't know how the Junk yards work in your area but you can get one around my area for super cheap. its worth making sure the head is solid and you can rely on it.
              1989 E30 Zinnoberrot Vert 325i OBD1 S52 turbo;IP

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              • mattrabbit
                Advanced Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 122

                #8
                I found a head through a friend of a friend. Just need to pick it up some time this week and bring it to a machine shop for valve grinding and a pressure test. I really don't want to spend more money right now but it is silly to go through all this trouble and not make it as good as possible.

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                • DesertBMW
                  E30 Enthusiast
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 1013

                  #9
                  Originally posted by mattrabbit
                  you're right. .
                  Thanks.

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                  • SwiftE30
                    E30 Modder
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 998

                    #10
                    Originally posted by mattrabbit
                    I really don't want to spend more money right now but it is silly to go through all this trouble and not make it as good as possible.
                    Nice choice man. You'll be happy you did this in the long run.
                    1989 E30 Zinnoberrot Vert 325i OBD1 S52 turbo;IP

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                    • mattrabbit
                      Advanced Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 122

                      #11
                      It is kind of a tough sell because I am a machinist myself, but I just don't have the time right now to make the tools and do the setup. I've never done any machine work for engines but when time permits, perhaps I'll make myself a jig using the cracked head and get a little practice.

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