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  • mtlbloodshot
    Mod Crazy
    • Jul 2011
    • 761

    #1

    Crossmember Reinforcement.

    Is it necessary to reinforce the crossmember with a M5X swap with the kits that companies such as AKG and VAC sell?

    I'm putting a M52 with POLY mounts and before I send my crossmember to powder coat, I need to know if its absolutely necessary to purchase or fabricate the plates to reinforce


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  • Robert
    No R3VLimiter
    • Dec 2010
    • 3770

    #2
    318i, m42 tend to break the subframe. So a heavier motor would do the same, right? Just reinforce it.

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    • Cadame30
      Banned
      • Oct 2012
      • 34

      #3
      I did it, I mean why not?

      It is not to much $, and will help in the long run, but be careful, on the plates for the bottom, you can box the nut in, so you can not torque it

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      • Beej '86 325es
        R3VLimited
        • Feb 2004
        • 2639

        #4
        Originally posted by Cadame30
        I did it, I mean why not?

        It is not to much $, and will help in the long run, but be careful, on the plates for the bottom, you can box the nut in, so you can not torque it
        ^^^^

        Yeah, I installed the reinforcements from TMS and after installing the motor mounts I realized I couldn't get at the nuts unless I did a lot of grinding.
        -Brandon
        '86 325es S50
        '12 VW GTI Autobahn DSG
        '03 540i M-Sport (sold)
        '08 Jeep SRT-8 (sold)

        For sale:
        S50 TMS chip for Schricks

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        • mtlbloodshot
          Mod Crazy
          • Jul 2011
          • 761

          #5
          I probably be making my own


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          • VinniE30
            R3VLimited
            • May 2010
            • 2113

            #6
            Is this a common problem? I haven't seen it happen.
            Zinno '89 <24v swap in progress>

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            • mtlbloodshot
              Mod Crazy
              • Jul 2011
              • 761

              #7
              Originally posted by VinniE30
              Is this a common problem? I haven't seen it happen.
              I haven't heard of it happening either but on the VAC website they say that it's a weak point and when using poly mounts, there's a higher chance of having cracks or possibly ripping apart but is that marketing or can it really happen


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              • Adrian_Visser
                R3VLimited
                • Jun 2006
                • 2823

                #8
                It has been suggested that the four cylinders subframes crack because of the extra vibration emanating from those four cylinder buzz boxes. It isn't exactly common to be cracking engine mount tabs on six cylinder cars unless you are throwing the car around hard i.e. auto-x or racing on R-comps etc.

                '89 Alpine S52 with goodies

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                • ak-
                  R3V OG
                  • May 2009
                  • 12422

                  #9
                  I broke one side on my old 325is
                  180k chassis with just new regular motor mounts.

                  I don't even drive hard. Started thinking it was my agtressive suspension that did it in.

                  Reinforcements welded into my new chassis. Don't want to deal with that bull again.

                  It even looks weak. Take a gander; looks like the whole area was tacked together factory.

                  1991 325iS turbo

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                  • Robert
                    No R3VLimiter
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 3770

                    #10
                    As of today, 3 318i m42 broke the subframe that I know of.

                    Andrew, Rob & Nick

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                    • wenbeaver89
                      Grease Monkey
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 319

                      #11
                      I broke my subframe on my old 318is M42 about 2 years ago!http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/imag...s/icon_sad.gif

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