S52 mid-muffler with Eisenmann Race?

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  • cormier
    Grease Monkey
    • Feb 2008
    • 380

    #1

    S52 mid-muffler with Eisenmann Race?

    OBD-1 S52 with minor bolt-ons. Built to be an aggressive DD / AutoX / HPDE car so I don't mind it loud, but its a bit much right now :tsk:. I think there are a few minor leaks and I'll get these taken care of first but I have a feeling I'll still want it a bit quieter

    Current Setup:

    ebay shorty headers
    custom downpipe/Xpipe
    dual Vibrant metal cats
    Straight pipes to Eisenmann Race e36m3 catback

    My question -- Should I be looking for resonators or additional mufflers if i want to quiet it down slightly? I am considering the Borla XS mufflers if I need to, I really like their sound. Any other suggestions?

  • butters
    E30 Fanatic
    • Nov 2010
    • 1202

    #2
    I have a similar setup, dual vibrant cats after a custom x-pipe, into dual vibrant resonators, into UUC system U muffler. I will warn you that it is still pretty droney and annoying, and while the resonators helped alot they do not reduce dB level much if at all. I bought a different muffler and will swap out the UUC. in your case I would suggest skipping resonators and going for a center muffler.

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    • hooken m
      E30 Mastermind
      • Sep 2010
      • 1537

      #3
      Originally posted by butters
      I have a similar setup, dual vibrant cats after a custom x-pipe, into dual vibrant resonators, into UUC system U muffler. I will warn you that it is still pretty droney and annoying, and while the resonators helped alot they do not reduce dB level much if at all. I bought a different muffler and will swap out the UUC. in your case I would suggest skipping resonators and going for a center muffler.
      this. if you want to make it noticeably quieter then a center muffler will definitely help out. but a resonator wouldnt be bad at all.
      my setup is s50 w/ schricks, raceland long tubes, 2.25in 3in ouch y pipe to 3in piping to a 24in long 3" diameter resonator to a 3" in free flow muffler. the car is pretty loud. i want to swap out the free flow for a chambered muffler so i can get a deeper and lower sound.
      Originally posted by evandael
      a car is a car. call it a dildo, i'd still drive the hell out of it.

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      • eandrade
        Advanced Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 117

        #4
        I have the exact setup you're referring to: OBD-1 S52 + OBD2 exhaust manifoolds + custom x-pipe (for O2 sensor) + S52 mid pipes + E36 Eisenmann race. I love it for daily driving. No drone, not obnoxiously loud, aggressive idle burble. I wish it had more "scream" up top, but I think that's only possible without cats.

        Unfortunately, I have no video, but friends of mine say it sounded great at the road course on track days.
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        • cormier
          Grease Monkey
          • Feb 2008
          • 380

          #5
          Originally posted by eandrade
          I have the exact setup you're referring to: OBD-1 S52 + OBD2 exhaust manifoolds + custom x-pipe (for O2 sensor) + S52 mid pipes + E36 Eisenmann race. I love it for daily driving. No drone, not obnoxiously loud, aggressive idle burble. I wish it had more "scream" up top, but I think that's only possible without cats.

          Unfortunately, I have no video, but friends of mine say it sounded great at the road course on track days.
          Your manifolds are OEM? Like with cats? Ya I really should look into getting the leaks taken care of and then judge. Maybe I'm just being a wuss :p

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          • eandrade
            Advanced Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 117

            #6
            S52 OEM exhaust manifolds (OBDII) are tubular steel. They do not have cats in them. The S52 only had cats in the mid pipe. Photos of my setup below...

            OEM exhaust manifolds (note no cats). This is before conversion to OBDI, so it still has the 2 O2 sensors in there and the provisions for SAI.

            S52B32 - Exhaust by BrownGuacamole, on Flickr

            X-pipe (custom)

            X-pipe by BrownGuacamole, on Flickr

            OEM Midpipe (you can see the dual cats here + the small resonators at the end)

            Mid pipe by BrownGuacamole, on Flickr

            Muffler

            Muffler by BrownGuacamole, on Flickr
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            1990 325i

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            • cormier
              Grease Monkey
              • Feb 2008
              • 380

              #7
              Ahhhh so you're still up OEM resonators and OEM cats vs my vibrant cats on me

              Is your whole system coated too?

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              • eandrade
                Advanced Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 117

                #8
                Nope, just the custom pipes are coated. Manifolds, mid pipe and muffler are as is.
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                1990 325i

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                • Holland
                  R3V OG
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 7176

                  #9
                  What exactly is the benefit of the X pipe? I'm exhaust illiterate.
                  1985 M10b18. 70maybewhpoffury. Over engineered S50b30 murica BBQ swap in progress.

                  Originally posted by DEV0 E30
                  You'd chugg this butt. I know you would. Ain't gotta' lie to kick it brostantinople.

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                  • cormier
                    Grease Monkey
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 380

                    #10
                    From what I understand (I'm not very literate either) it equalizes pressure between the pipes and helps control rasp. As well, you can run your o2 sensor there so it reads off all cylinders

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