Calling vanos M/S50 cam swap's

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  • KangamangusDriver
    E30 Mastermind
    • Aug 2005
    • 1870

    #1

    Calling vanos M/S50 cam swap's

    I am looking to upgrade to a set of S50 cams in my M50 (vanos).

    My question is: what has to be done in order to swap cams?
    I hear vanos makes it very difficult?

    I have heard you need a special tool, I have also heard you don't.

    Who has done this? How did you do it? Cost? Was it worth it?

    Any other parts worth while changing out while im in there?
  • SchnellerVert
    No R3VLimiter
    • Sep 2005
    • 3948

    #2

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    • motors4me
      Advanced Member
      • Feb 2005
      • 120

      #3
      Good write up there, I have never tried changing cams without the special tools so I can't comment on that. What I would recommend though if you do the swap is to upgrade to the s50 thrust plates(2 in front of cam gear vs. 1 on m50), diaphram spring(not even used on m50), and longer studs(necessary due to larger "stack height" of said plates and spring) that are used on the s50 intake cam and a s50 timing chain tensioner. They will reduce the tendency for these engines to sound like " a coffee can with marbles in it" as the author of that article describes it.
      Good luck!

      edit: hell yeah it was worth it for sure, get the TMS chip to take full advantage of the cams and get a 7000rpm rev limit(don't quote me but on their site it says something like 20-30hp gain)

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      • Skafrog
        E30 Mastermind
        • Oct 2003
        • 1730

        #4
        you can do it without the special tools. Just be careful and take your time, slowly unscrewing 1/8 turn at a time.

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        • bimmers4life
          E30 Addict
          • Feb 2005
          • 420

          #5
          search yahoo a little and you can find a nice writeup on how to do it without the 1,000 somethin dollar special tool. i had to pull the cams on my m42 and it said you need that tool but you really dont. you need a another person to hold the cams while you unbolt them or they snap... lemme see if i can find it.

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          • bimmers4life
            E30 Addict
            • Feb 2005
            • 420

            #6
            http://www.pelicanparts.com/bmw/tech...ft-removal.htm

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            • SchnellerVert
              No R3VLimiter
              • Sep 2005
              • 3948

              #7
              Originally posted by motors4me
              Good write up there, I have never tried changing cams without the special tools so I can't comment on that. What I would recommend though if you do the swap is to upgrade to the s50 thrust plates(2 in front of cam gear vs. 1 on m50), diaphram spring(not even used on m50), and longer studs(necessary due to larger "stack height" of said plates and spring) that are used on the s50 intake cam and a s50 timing chain tensioner. They will reduce the tendency for these engines to sound like " a coffee can with marbles in it" as the author of that article describes it.
              Good luck!

              edit: hell yeah it was worth it for sure, get the TMS chip to take full advantage of the cams and get a 7000rpm rev limit(don't quote me but on their site it says something like 20-30hp gain)
              Just to let you know that's not mine... I just gave an answer.

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